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Post by bequestry »

gus_massa wrote: post #33
jlgaddis wrote: post #11

The company has issued a "statement regarding recent allegations made at Black Hat 2019 [0]. For anyone interested, the statement links to the guy's paper [1] "where he identified the first Infinite Prime Number prediction pattern". > Utilizing multi-dimensional encryption technology, including time, music’s infinite variability, artificial intelligence, and most notably mathematical constancies to generate entangled…

The paper is quite straightforward and use only math from the first or second year of the university. If you understand the word "module" and have 15 minutes to loose, give it a try. Ignoring the reference to unrelated results about prime numbers, the main idea is that to check if a number is prime: 1) First check the remainder modulo 10, modulo 9 and modulo 24. This part is correct, but it's suspicious that they was…

>Some mathematicians consider...

Sheesh, citation needed. Doubt this paper would be allowed as a post on wikipedia.

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Post by dguido »

tastroder wrote: post #41
dguido wrote: post #30

There's an article from PC Mag with a few more details: https://www.pcmag.com/news/370119/black-hat-attendees-sponso... Here's a video of Robert Grant giving an introduction to his Time AI nonsense from their party the night before: https://www.dropbox.com/s/llp24loq5odvyhk/Crown%20Sterling%2... JP Aumasson live tweeted their presentation at Blackhat: https://twitter.com/veorq/status/1159559785068429312

Do I understand those Twitter threads correctly in that BH security removed you from the room? The heck?

Yes, and it makes sense that I was thrown out. It's not like the security guard knows the talk is bullshit. He just saw a guy (me) yelling that, "all you employees of this guy should quit and find real jobs!" I think that was an appropriate response in the moment.

The true failure happened when Blackhat decided it was ok to accept money from a con man.

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Post by dguido »

lucb1e wrote: post #61

I don't get why we give this so much attention. The authors are clearly kidding, mentally ill, or have a purpose beyond my understanding (this can't be the easiest way to launder money).

This kind of attention is great for us, bad for him. Now there's a PC Mag, Vice, and Gizmodo article indexed high up on Google when you search Time AI that debunks him.

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Post by cbanek »

andybak wrote: post #128
seren wrote: post #108

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Another page on achievement from the same group. https://resonance.is/resonance-academy-faculty/ Including Mr. Apollo After having a vision of the Universe as a fractal hologram at the age of 15, he extensively studied a wide variety of branches in theoretical astrophysics, completing major research papers on the potential interface between consciousness and the physics of space-time by the time he graduated High Sch…

His website is worth a look: https://www.adamapollo.com/ I'm going to sample a couple of his 27 albums. The cover art alone is a thing to behold. EDIT - I'm beginning to think we've got this all wrong. It's not a scam - it's a cult.

I think the 4th picture in the first carousel is a desktop background I had once.

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Post by tialaramex »

whymauri wrote: post #90
pjc50 wrote: post #44

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It's like audiophiles; there's not too many people who believe it, but enough of the ones that do have enough disposable income to make a great grift.

I'm genuinely confused here... some audio equipment does actually sound better than other audio equipment. Are you referring to snake oil audio cable salesmen?

Speakers sound different, and thus some speakers will sound better to you. Most people find linear speaker performance "hard work" so you don't see it attempted in homes usually.

And maybe, if you don't use active speakers, the Amplifier makes a difference.

Everything else is snake oil, not just the cables. Separate CD transports, fancy DACs, "HD" formats, all snake oil.

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Post by Nextgrid »

arbitrary_name wrote: post #163
Nextgrid wrote: post #149

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I read your comment up to the last paragraph and was going to comment about “VP at Gartner ” and how these consulting companies (and Accenture, Deloitte, etc) run on bullshit but your last paragraph sums it up perfectly. I wonder what can be done to nuke these BS companies out of existence. Anyone has ideas?

I think you need to dial back the vitriol. Yes Ive seen these firms screw projects up royally (Accenture Hertz for example). Ive also seen them consistently deliver valuable insights and outcomes for their clients. Ive worked with utterly incompetent client staff (i.e. people not so dissimilar from you, maybe) and some very very good ones (also you maybe). At no point do I advocate nuking anything or anyone out of ex…

I’m a consultant as well. I’m confident I can deliver (with a team of trusted contractors I personally know) most of what “Big Consulting” (aka the aforementioned companies) delivers (or fail to deliver) for less than half the price and still make a significant profit, or refer the client to someone who’s more experienced in that area of business. The Hertz case is a prime example.

My post isn’t a dig against consulting, it’s a dig against “Big Consulting” where it’s more about bluff, a big brand (to prey on the “nobody has been fired for choosing X”), lots of meetings & bullshit while the actual work gets outsourced to monkeys in third-world countries with atrocious working conditions.

I want to nuke “Big Consulting” out of existence to let real consulting take its place for people like you and me.

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Post by gus_massa »

hobofan wrote: post #123
tqkxzugoaupvwqr wrote: post #65

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The video effects are beautiful. This could easily be the intro of a successful Netflix series. I watched it completely (4:40 min) because the graphics and all the mumbo-jumbo mesmerized me.

I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing. It's pretty much exaclty "I know a guy who knows After Effects"-level. Most of the graphics style is pretty inconsistent as the basis (probably stock footage) and only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom). You could probably cobble this video together for a few hundred bucks on Fiverr.

> I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing.

For comparison, my best animation is a gif with a moving arrow, something like the "Click here to begin" arrow of Windows 95, but much worse. In comparison these graphics are impressive. (On the other hand, when I see the math I'm impressed in the other direction.)

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Post by xiphias2 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #149
raphlinus wrote: post #116

This reminds me of a person who somehow managed an invitation to give a presentation at UC Berkeley on database compression in 1993, with similar levels of snake-oil. I remember one of the funnier moments, a theme of the presentation was how there were more and more large data sets out there, including the Library of Congress. In a burst of enthusiasm, the presenter gushed about how they even had a Stradivarius violi…

I read your comment up to the last paragraph and was going to comment about “VP at Gartner ” and how these consulting companies (and Accenture, Deloitte, etc) run on bullshit but your last paragraph sums it up perfectly. I wonder what can be done to nuke these BS companies out of existence. Anyone has ideas?

Don’t invest in index funds. Vet the great companies by their technical leadership excellence and invest in them accordingly as long as the valuation is fair.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

rurban wrote: post #103
thaumasiotes wrote: post #92

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> Checking for 9 might be easier in decimal It isn't. The test is the same in both cases.

It is. The sum of decimals is much faster than the modulo.

Huh? You need modulus either way. n is zero (mod 3) iff its digit sum is zero (mod 3), and it's zero (mod 9) iff its digit sum is zero (mod 9).

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Post by jjeaff »

StavrosK wrote: post #105
moloch wrote: post #81

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The conference did _not_ accept the talk, they paid the conference so that they could give the talk.

Which they accepted, no?

They don't vet the paid presentations.
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