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Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by youdontknowtho »

jlgaddis wrote: post #11

The company has issued a "statement regarding recent allegations made at Black Hat 2019 [0]. For anyone interested, the statement links to the guy's paper [1] "where he identified the first Infinite Prime Number prediction pattern". > Utilizing multi-dimensional encryption technology, including time, music’s infinite variability, artificial intelligence, and most notably mathematical constancies to generate entangled…

"Entagled key pairs" sounds like Deepak Chopra style woowoo.

"Brains are soul localizing devices." <--- The Deepster Chopra.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by jowsie »

jaynetics wrote: post #97
ian0 wrote: post #35

Sure it's not documentary makers seeing how far they can take it? This looks like a piss-take.

the team page supports your point ( https://www.crownsterling.io/2019/05/alan-green/ ): "Alan [...] dedicated the last fifteen years to decrypting mathematical codes in Shakespeare’s writings that have revealed unknown sacred geometry hidden in the pyramids of Giza." i don't think anyone will invest so much time into such a bungled attempt of con-artistry, so this does look more like a (costly) hoax. maybe it is inte…

It's more likely to be along the same lines as the Nigerian Prince scam emails. They look absolutely ridiculous to anyone with the slightest ability to critically think about the situation. Those aren't the people they're targeting, though.

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Post by rurban »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #92
codeflo wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the summary. > First check the remainder modulo 10, modulo 9 and modulo 24. This makes zero sense already. First, 9=3 x 3, so checking for 3 is sufficient. (Checking for 9 might be easier in decimal, but why the hell would you do cryptography in decimal?) Then there’s the 24=2 x 2 x 2 x 3. Again, why not just use 6, but even worse, there’s no new factor here that’s not already covered by 10 and 9. (And as…

> Checking for 9 might be easier in decimal It isn't. The test is the same in both cases.

It is. The sum of decimals is much faster than the modulo.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by pjc50 »

whymauri wrote: post #90
pjc50 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like audiophiles; there's not too many people who believe it, but enough of the ones that do have enough disposable income to make a great grift.

I'm genuinely confused here... some audio equipment does actually sound better than other audio equipment. Are you referring to snake oil audio cable salesmen?

Yes, the latter, and a lot of the really expensive home audio kit.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by StavrosK »

moloch wrote: post #81
misnome wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The conference accepted the talk. They gave the talk. The conference is now removing their videos after-the-fact. It's not hard to see how one could spin that as censorship.

The conference did _not_ accept the talk, they paid the conference so that they could give the talk.

Which they accepted, no?

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by jaynetics »

jowsie wrote: post #102
jaynetics wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the team page supports your point ( https://www.crownsterling.io/2019/05/alan-green/ ): "Alan [...] dedicated the last fifteen years to decrypting mathematical codes in Shakespeare’s writings that have revealed unknown sacred geometry hidden in the pyramids of Giza." i don't think anyone will invest so much time into such a bungled attempt of con-artistry, so this does look more like a (costly) hoax. maybe it is inte…

It's more likely to be along the same lines as the Nigerian Prince scam emails. They look absolutely ridiculous to anyone with the slightest ability to critically think about the situation. Those aren't the people they're targeting, though.

even in the Nigerian prince mails they don't go out of their way to give the prince a biography that could have been written by Erich von Däniken.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by tialaramex »

gus_massa wrote: post #99
mkl wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like all instances of "module" here should be "modulo", having been auto-incorrected or something.

Ups. I'm from argentina, so blame the autotranslation table inside my brain. I hope it's not bad enough to make the idea unintelligible.

It's fine. We're in a thread about people's "snake oil detectors" going off, and your use of module where the right word is modulo kept causing the needle on mine to deflect, but you'd say something reasonable right after.

The famous 19th century English poet Robert Browning was not a particularly worldly fellow and got it into his head that the word "twat" referred to a nun's headgear. Later he wrote a poem that needs a rhyme for bats in the context of religious folk arriving for prayer and he picked "twats", - then since he was an important English writer and this word was unfamiliar to them (or at least they had no citations for it) the editors of the Oxford English Dictionary asked him about it, and discovered his error. Oops. You're never going to make a mistake that'll be as famous as Browning's, so you're fine.

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Post by seren »

goodmachine wrote: post #87
p1esk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the interesting part is that at least some of the people involved in these companies seem real (e.g. https://www.linkedin.com/in/amira-val-baker-47047123/ )

Real people, fronting unreal businesses. Here is their head of Business Development, Designer, and Cryptography Advisor https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamapollo/

Another page on achievement from the same group.

https://resonance.is/resonance-academy-faculty/

Including Mr. Apollo

After having a vision of the Universe as a fractal hologram at the age of 15, he extensively studied a wide variety of branches in theoretical astrophysics, completing major research papers on the potential interface between consciousness and the physics of space-time by the time he graduated High School.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by RL_Quine »

whymauri wrote: post #90
pjc50 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like audiophiles; there's not too many people who believe it, but enough of the ones that do have enough disposable income to make a great grift.

I'm genuinely confused here... some audio equipment does actually sound better than other audio equipment. Are you referring to snake oil audio cable salesmen?

"Audiophiles" are generally associated with not high end audio equipment at absurd costs and no reasoning. Oxygen free copper cabling, making sure your cables are isolated from the floor on little stands to reduce the vibration they absorb, "burning in" amplifiers for thousands of hours to improve the flavor of the output in a supposedly perceptible way. Many behaviors with the consistency of rubbing deer blood on your car hood to give it bloodlust, and therefor extra speed.

Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by _0ffh »

friendlybus wrote: post #45
lordnacho wrote: post #31

Snake oil for sure, but this is merely a snake oil sales guy who walked into a room full of people willing to call him out. The rest of society is not so courageous. You only need to look at various management consultants, new age healers, and religion to find more people who obviously know nothing about how the world actually is, but are never held to account.

>and religion Going to disagree with you there, you would know this guy is deliberately being manipulative with symbolism if you took understanding from religious art. He's just compressed several parts of the collective unconscious into one video without meaning for whatever dumb reason. Time is growing more important than space, that'll be building up to 2024. The big slow interstellar style "bwooah"s have stopped…

I didn't downvote, but only because I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not.
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