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Re: Black Hat Talk About ‘Time AI’ Causes Uproar, Is Deleted by Conference

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Post by extropy »

mattkevan wrote: post #38
RL_Quine wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a team page like that is your first red flag. https://strathspeycrown.com/subsidiary-companies-investments... > "Strathspey Crown is a visionary portfolio of transformational businesses, focused on the most complex sectors of healthcare, energy, and technology." This seems to be the parent company, check out some of the goofy things they claim to been involved in. Quotes like "changing the paradigm", "the inte…

Just spent the last 15 minutes reading through their websites in quiet amazement. How do they get funding? Why do people pay them? When your ‘director of cryptography’ has this in his bio, surely something’s up: > dedicated the last fifteen years to decrypting mathematical codes in Shakespeare’s writings that have revealed unknown sacred geometry hidden in the pyramids of Giza. Another of their companies sells patche…

I would say all the companies are different branches of the same Con artist.

Just working on different directions.

I clicked around and some of them even don't exist outside of strathspeycrown. Several of them have just plain placeholder sites.

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Post by felipemnoa »

gus_massa wrote: post #99
mkl wrote: post #48

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It looks like all instances of "module" here should be "modulo", having been auto-incorrected or something.

Ups. I'm from argentina, so blame the autotranslation table inside my brain. I hope it's not bad enough to make the idea unintelligible.

Since we are correcting stuff, it is: Oops

I also was thrown off by the word module. I said to myself, unless he is talking about modulo I have no idea what that is.

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Post by hobofan »

tqkxzugoaupvwqr wrote: post #65
misnome wrote: post #55

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I mean - this is a pretty impressive video. Bullshit, but impressive. How much does something like this cost to get made? This isn't exactly "I know a guy who has After Effects" level production.

The video effects are beautiful. This could easily be the intro of a successful Netflix series. I watched it completely (4:40 min) because the graphics and all the mumbo-jumbo mesmerized me.

I'm not sure what you guys/gals are seeing. It's pretty much exaclty "I know a guy who knows After Effects"-level. Most of the graphics style is pretty inconsistent as the basis (probably stock footage) and only made consistent via heavy filters (desaturating everything and applying a lot of bloom).

You could probably cobble this video together for a few hundred bucks on Fiverr.

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Post by chvid »

jotm wrote: post #94
chvid wrote: post #52

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"Replicating the magnetohydrodynamics naturally occurring in a variety of astrophysical objects, which couples plasma modes to the harmonic structure of the quantum vacuum — the Harmonic Flux Resonator (HFR) replicates and transfers quantum energy." ... it says on the website and then it links on to a website which offers energy derived from vacuum: Vacuum Energy Energy extracted directly from the vacuum. Nothing to…

> Energy extracted directly from the vacuum. Nothing to burn, nothing to consume, nothing to destroy. No fumes, no toxins, no limitations. So, it is nothing . Shieeet I wish I could sell nothing to people for money .

It is a free energy machine / perpetual motion machine. That is always good if you are tech investor to have that sort of thing in your portfolio :-D

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Post by gus_massa »

codeflo wrote: post #54
gus_massa wrote: post #33

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The paper is quite straightforward and use only math from the first or second year of the university. If you understand the word "module" and have 15 minutes to loose, give it a try. Ignoring the reference to unrelated results about prime numbers, the main idea is that to check if a number is prime: 1) First check the remainder modulo 10, modulo 9 and modulo 24. This part is correct, but it's suspicious that they was…

Thanks for the summary. > First check the remainder modulo 10, modulo 9 and modulo 24. This makes zero sense already. First, 9=3 x 3, so checking for 3 is sufficient. (Checking for 9 might be easier in decimal, but why the hell would you do cryptography in decimal?) Then there’s the 24=2 x 2 x 2 x 3. Again, why not just use 6, but even worse, there’s no new factor here that’s not already covered by 10 and 9. (And as…

They are using the "rule of nines" (i.e. the sum of the digits, perhaps iterated). It is very handy when you have the decimal representation of the number to operate on paper, but it's not as handy when you have the numbers in the computer. I "translated" that to "modulo 9" because it is equivalent and is easier to understand for not native English speakers. [Hi from Argentina!]

Also, they are using the last digit of the number, that I translated to "modulo 10".

Another reason for the translation is that the mathematical structure is more clear in "modulo 10, modulo 9 and modulo 24" than in the version "last digit, nines rule and modulo 24".

In a computer is much more efficient to use modulo that transforming the number to a string and then operating with the digits, so I hope they have an efficient implementation but it is not clear from the pdf.

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Post by hobofan »

_0ffh wrote: post #112
rv-de wrote: post #51

https://www.robertedwardgrant.com/about That's Robert Grant's personal website. Check it out. It's hilarious.

He's linked a TEDx talk of his. Kinda figures. I suppose he couldn't tell the difference between that and a proper conference.

> I suppose he couldn't tell the difference between that and a proper conference.

Most people can't. At this point I've basically given up on trying to correct people that call TEDx talks TED talks.

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Post by liability »

misnome wrote: post #53

I have somewhat sympathy for Black Hat, especially with the "pay for talks" model that they seem to get funding from, it's easy for these things to get a platform. I went to a maker space in the UK that occasionally held talks - one day they had a talk by some "Alkaline water" machine manufacturer (not the manufacturer, but one of the pyramid scheme dupes). Like many of these, it was a random mix of diverse actual (i…

> diversity of the actual science means that there is _nobody_ who can be an expert in all areas and so refuting can be waved away.

No, you just overthought it. Consider Diogenes' refutation of Zeno's motion paradoxes. Did he invent calculus? No, he stood up and walked around.

If somebody tries to sell you a magical medicine water alkalizer machine, just throw alkaseltzer tablets at their face until they fuck off. That's all the refutation that's needed. A technical 'rigorous' refutation wouldn't be understood by the rubes such con men target anyway.

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Post by andybak »

seren wrote: post #108
goodmachine wrote: post #87

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Real people, fronting unreal businesses. Here is their head of Business Development, Designer, and Cryptography Advisor https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamapollo/

Another page on achievement from the same group. https://resonance.is/resonance-academy-faculty/ Including Mr. Apollo After having a vision of the Universe as a fractal hologram at the age of 15, he extensively studied a wide variety of branches in theoretical astrophysics, completing major research papers on the potential interface between consciousness and the physics of space-time by the time he graduated High Sch…

His website is worth a look: https://www.adamapollo.com/

I'm going to sample a couple of his 27 albums. The cover art alone is a thing to behold.

EDIT - I'm beginning to think we've got this all wrong.

It's not a scam - it's a cult.

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Post by Uptrenda »

I'm getting an odd Wolf of wall street vibe from this. It's like the script were taken as inspiration for the branding.

Crown sterling = Stratton Oakmont = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPVMfGzXZP8

Stratton's logo is a lion. Crown Sterlings logo is a lion. The style of presentation is the same: start with axioms that are hard to argue with. Use it to build trust, then when they're listening segway into the real bs.

Building trust = https://youtu.be/dCANT0nG3bY?t=36

"First we pitch them disney, at & T, ... blue chip stocks exclusively. companies these people know. once we've suckered them in we unload the dog shite. pink sheets, the penny stocks, where we make the money."

They're doing the same thing but with encryption. Ofc, no one understands encryption directly so they talk abstractly about entropy and appeal to authority. After that comes the bs. The only part that seems missing from this is what they're shilling for and they're already gathering emails.

Oops. I was going to say they missed the crucial ingredient which is to create FOMO -- or fear of missing out. But they got that right too by implying existing encryption was somehow flawed or broken. People would have to sign up or risk their 'data liberty.' Nicely done.

I'll be surprised if this isn't to hype a blockchain-related project. IOTA 2.0.

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