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Co-defendants or co-conspirators?
Is there any real reason to believe there were any?
Until you follow all leads, you cannot discount them.
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#192If the NSA can’t keep foreign intelligence from stealing its encryption keys, how can we expect the government to protect any backdoor into our devices? I’m not willing to trade ownership of my phone and my bank accounts to the government on some promise they’ll use it to keep me safe. Only an idiot would take that bargain.
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#193Is the American government position “Guns don’t kill people, encryption kills people”, or am I just combining the personal opinions of a bunch of unrelated people who work for the government?
It really does seem to be that is the position. There are a lot of backwards nutjobs in the government right now, blaming other backwards nutjobs, while the rest of us sane people are trying to duct tape society together. Guns don't kill people, encryption doesn't kill people, backwards nutjobs kill people. Politics in America, currently, can entirely be summed up as the Spiderman pointing at Spiderman meme.
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#194Is the American government position “Guns don’t kill people, encryption kills people”, or am I just combining the personal opinions of a bunch of unrelated people who work for the government?
In the US, there are more firearms than people. About one-third of all households have at least one firearm [0]. The vast majority of these people have never had a serious brush with law enforcement, but some significant portion would refuse to part with their guns if a ban were enacted tomorrow. While it is said that nearly all Americans are felons [1], most Americans do not intentionally commit felonies or think of…
We had an assault weapons ban before, related shootings declined, and millions of people did not become criminals overnight.
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#195I'm curious about Macs. If I have Firmware Password and FileVault enabled, is it same FBI-proof as iPhone? Does T1 and T2 chips or absent Tx chip (older Macs) make difference? Is storing FileVault unlock key in iCloud makes difference?
I’m not sure how FileVault is implemented, but so long as your key is derived solely from your passphrase and not stored outside your brain (iCloud can be subpoenaed) the strength of your encryption should be proportional to the strength of your passphrase. Computers have less of a reason to use the baked-in CPU or security chip data in deriving the encryption key because longer passwords are more feasible on a lapto…
FileVault 2 Recovery key is 120 bit, I guess not feasible to bruteforce? Actual low level key is 256-bit XTS-AES. Still unsure what is the process of converting typed login password to low level key.
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#196They also can’t access his brain. Neither of these situations are ones I feel compelled to fix.
I think this is a great analogy and easy for the layman to understand.
It's not a perfect analogy. The problem with the "back door" is that these keys will leak. They always do. It's a big danger to have a weakness in all our devices that we know, eventually, Russia, China, or Iran will get their hands on.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the point is that millions of Americans feel so strongly about gun ownership that they would rather be felons (and 'molon labe' their guns) than give them up.
Am I the only one who finds the use of "molon labe" farcical? I mean, the Persians did come and take them and killed the entire Spartan force in the process.
It makes more sense in context, take Patrick Henry's words in 1775 to understand what liberty and the preservation of constitutional rights means to Americans.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
or Thomas Jefferson in 1787:
"We have had 13. states independent 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure."
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More like guns either kill people or look pretty on a wall; encryption not only can't kill people, it also prevents people from stealing. Even a nutjob armed with the latest encryption, still needs a gun to kill people.
> Even a nutjob armed with the latest encryption, still needs a gun to kill people. I dunno, I'm pretty sure a determined enough assailant could beat someone to death with a hardcover copy of PGP Source Code and Internals.
And I guess if they are really enterprising they could print off a bunch, build a potato gun analog, and go on a rampage. But then again in the time it takes to print even the single copy in some states they could go to the store and come back with an AR-15 and extended clip.
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You're thinking of mass shooting 2019/247, not mass shooting 2019/248. (Yes, we're up to more than one a day on average now) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_th...
This list gives me shivers...is the USA a scary, uncivilized country?
I spend about 8 months/year in the United States (Silicon Valley) and 4 months/year in Israel. I do "feel" a bit safer in Israel than the U.S. (for example I don't like travelling in San Francisco. I fear for personal safety on the streets and on Muni, and you have to garage your car otherwise it will be broken in to).
But I don't feel like I'm going to get shot in the United States. I have never even heard gunfire in the U.S. (off the shooting range!) and I've lived in Brooklyn and Manhattan, too.
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This was exactly my thought when I read this article. But the scariest thing is that, what US Govt decides have huge implications for the whole world! Having a backdoor in software NOT only enables US government and other cyber criminals to have access. It also enables other governments like Russian, Chinese, Israilean, North Korean governments too! Keep that in mind too.
Australia has already made way for other nations to follow suit this year. We have a history with low gun violence, encryption or lack thereof had nothing to do with that.
Sure, but your low gun violence didn't just happen. People used to have guns, they liked their guns, but there were shootings. People including politicians realized they could do something about it. Some gun owners hated that, but shootings all but stopped. You're really the example that all "guns don't kill people" arguers hate having to try and explain away.