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Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Also some large companies will fire you if you test positive for it even if you work in a state where it’s legal.

The land of the free: now with mandatory drugs testing at work.

If you're getting a drug test it's most likely because there are safety and insurance implications. Don't pretend like most of us are being randomly tested at work.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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The dominoes fall, one by one. The upside is that the wealth from legal cannabis sales will now flow through to the rich white men where it belongs rather than to the minority folk who dominate the black market.

Sorry, smart folks don't want black market product. Learn how the world works.

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The poor minority folks leading organized crime.

I walk into a cannabis store near me and see young white people behind the counter, and I know the license holder is a wealthy white person (because it's public record). I know the company running the government website where I can buy online is owned and run by a bunch of rich white men (because it's a public company) and most its employees are well-educated, well-to-do white men because I know many of them personal…

I find it worrisome how preoccupied you seem to be with the skin color of others.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Finally some sanity coming to good old Europe. Instead of making (rather big) part of the population automatically criminals, state 1) gets revenue (directly taxing plus new jobs); 2) can monitor usage, set maximum potency, strains, etc (good enough for most users); 3) takes significant revenue from proper criminals, local and worldwide; 4) makes various medical products more available. Everybody, apart from organize…

What is a "proper criminal"?

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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It's funny how these things turn our expectations upside-down. I'm from the UK originally and they semi-recently (~10 years ago) upgraded the severity with which they treat cannabis so that it's now "Class B". This means that mere possession can result in "Up to 5 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both" (more @ https://www.gov.uk/penalties-drug-possession-dealing ). So yeah, your country might not be so backwards…

And at around the same time made magic mushrooms completely illegal, whereas prior there had been a workaround leading to a healthy market. The tragedy of this late Labour-era push against loosening /smarting-up of drug legislation is that it fairly directly led to the boom in synthetic cannabinoids, starting with the fairly benign Spice (as a brand) and resulting in a swathe of much-stronger, less-tested and more da…

Workaround == loophole?

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Amsterdam is still clean and quiet compared to other major cities. To be honest, I suspect the main factor to be the red light district. Just visit the Reeperbahn in Hamburg. I'd argue it's much worse and they don't offer legal weed. To be clear, I'm not arguing for or against prostitution, but against prostitution as a tourist attraction.

It's hard to see how you can have prostitution and it not be a tourist attraction.

In Germany prostitution is legal and with the exception of st Pauli the red light districts are the opposite of tourist attractions.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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The land of the free: now with mandatory drugs testing at work.

Many of those jobs requiring testing for safety reasons (but not all). Are you suggesting the US isn't the land of the free because people aren't free to come to work intoxicated and potentially endanger their colleagues?

No, I am saying that the US isn't the land of the free because, in practice, you seem to live under immense scrutiny and oppression when compared to other western countries. No privacy over even your own body, no job security, no health care without a job, no holidays.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Bravo, and here's hoping that other countries follow. I was recently shocked to discover that my backwards eastern european country is one of the few in the EU that has even decriminalized drugs; I genuinely thought that this was standard in the EU but apparently not, see this map https://i.imgur.com/A0JICkk.jpg

It's funny how these things turn our expectations upside-down. I'm from the UK originally and they semi-recently (~10 years ago) upgraded the severity with which they treat cannabis so that it's now "Class B". This means that mere possession can result in "Up to 5 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both" (more @ https://www.gov.uk/penalties-drug-possession-dealing ). So yeah, your country might not be so backwards…

At least USA has racism as an excuse for banning jazz cigarettes, but why does UK want to put people in jail for smoking weed?

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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The land of the free: now with mandatory drugs testing at work.

Many of those jobs requiring testing for safety reasons (but not all). Are you suggesting the US isn't the land of the free because people aren't free to come to work intoxicated and potentially endanger their colleagues?

It would be more sensible if the drug tests only checked if you were intoxicated at work. As it is, they check if you ever get intoxicated.

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In Germany, there's a huge difference between Bavaria/Munich and Berlin. In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated while in Bavaria/Munich you end up with jail time. To aid further with irony, in Bavaria/Munich they drink a lot of beer (= drugs) during Oktoberfest.

I guess it depends. I was on a business trip in Munich once, took the chance to visit a friend who got me a hand full pre-rolled joints for the remaining days I had to spend in the city. One night after work I went out to the park opposite the hotel and started smoking. I was suddenly surrounded by police. They are really all over the city and I was stupid. They went through my stuff in the hotel, I gave them the rem…

That's how it works. There's a maximum amount ("Höchstmenge") where they close the case when you are below that. The maximum amount varies between federal states, so Bavaria and twelve other states are quite strict with a limit of 6g while four other states have a higher limit of 12g or more.
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