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Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by EForEndeavour »

thecleaner wrote: post #56
Fnoord wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany, there's a huge difference between Bavaria/Munich and Berlin. In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated while in Bavaria/Munich you end up with jail time. To aid further with irony, in Bavaria/Munich they drink a lot of beer (= drugs) during Oktoberfest.

Off topic but I found Bavaria to be much more snobbish in general. For example, point out something funny about them and they immediately go on the defensive, however everyt time they say something rude and you point it out, they play the German honesty card. Never had such a problem with Berlin or Frankfurt.

In my n = 1 anecdotal experience, that description perfectly matches a person I know from the Frankfurt Rhein-Main region.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by EForEndeavour »

lawlorino wrote: post #42
bregma wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada shares a border with the USA (where persecution of cannabis use is a billion-dollar profitable industry) and has made no effort to dissuide cannabis tourism. On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors.

> On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors. Well good for you, but as someone who lives in the centre of Amsterdam I can understand the motivation to discourage drug tourism. Edit: to clarify it's not the reams of tourists getting high in coffee shops that I have a problem with, but the knock-on effects of it. Tourists treat the city like an adult themepark and recently the city council have been taking steps to…

In other words, heavy tourism is a problem, no matter what drives it.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by YippRino »

thecleaner wrote: post #56
Fnoord wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany, there's a huge difference between Bavaria/Munich and Berlin. In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated while in Bavaria/Munich you end up with jail time. To aid further with irony, in Bavaria/Munich they drink a lot of beer (= drugs) during Oktoberfest.

Off topic but I found Bavaria to be much more snobbish in general. For example, point out something funny about them and they immediately go on the defensive, however everyt time they say something rude and you point it out, they play the German honesty card. Never had such a problem with Berlin or Frankfurt.

Not doubting you, but what's the sample size here? Pretty interesting that regional differences like this do exist in some places. And anecdotally, friend of mine spoke pretty highly of Bavaria after a (very) short trip.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by 99052882514569 »

emptyfile wrote: post #26

Bravo, and here's hoping that other countries follow. I was recently shocked to discover that my backwards eastern european country is one of the few in the EU that has even decriminalized drugs; I genuinely thought that this was standard in the EU but apparently not, see this map https://i.imgur.com/A0JICkk.jpg

Here's a better map, because it breaks down the US by state and is more up-to-date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis#/media/Fi...

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by Krasnol »

Fnoord wrote: post #33
emptyfile wrote: post #26

Bravo, and here's hoping that other countries follow. I was recently shocked to discover that my backwards eastern european country is one of the few in the EU that has even decriminalized drugs; I genuinely thought that this was standard in the EU but apparently not, see this map https://i.imgur.com/A0JICkk.jpg

In Germany, there's a huge difference between Bavaria/Munich and Berlin. In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated while in Bavaria/Munich you end up with jail time. To aid further with irony, in Bavaria/Munich they drink a lot of beer (= drugs) during Oktoberfest.

I guess it depends.

I was on a business trip in Munich once, took the chance to visit a friend who got me a hand full pre-rolled joints for the remaining days I had to spend in the city. One night after work I went out to the park opposite the hotel and started smoking.

I was suddenly surrounded by police. They are really all over the city and I was stupid. They went through my stuff in the hotel, I gave them the remaining joints and they left. A few weeks later I got a letter saying that they won't follow up on it according to §31a Abs.1 BtMG.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by emsy »

lawlorino wrote: post #42
bregma wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada shares a border with the USA (where persecution of cannabis use is a billion-dollar profitable industry) and has made no effort to dissuide cannabis tourism. On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors.

> On the contrary: we welcome it it open doors. Well good for you, but as someone who lives in the centre of Amsterdam I can understand the motivation to discourage drug tourism. Edit: to clarify it's not the reams of tourists getting high in coffee shops that I have a problem with, but the knock-on effects of it. Tourists treat the city like an adult themepark and recently the city council have been taking steps to…

Amsterdam is still clean and quiet compared to other major cities. To be honest, I suspect the main factor to be the red light district. Just visit the Reeperbahn in Hamburg. I'd argue it's much worse and they don't offer legal weed. To be clear, I'm not arguing for or against prostitution, but against prostitution as a tourist attraction.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by pmoriarty »

Fnoord wrote: post #35
patchtopic wrote: post #6

What about Portugal, or is that decriminalisation?

Decriminalization. If you have too much on you, you still end up with a record. Source: ex of my partner got busted with too much cannabis in Portugal (whilst living there, and being a regular smoker). In The Netherlands, its 5 gram per person max, and IIRC also 4 or 5 XTC pills (I can't quite remember). Though that information is from '00s. It might've changed, I don't know.

"Decriminalization. If you have too much on you, you still end up with a record."

From the article, it sounds like Luxembourg is the same:

"those who break the more generous laws will be hit with harsh penalties under the plan"

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by Krasnol »

YippRino wrote: post #63
thecleaner wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic but I found Bavaria to be much more snobbish in general. For example, point out something funny about them and they immediately go on the defensive, however everyt time they say something rude and you point it out, they play the German honesty card. Never had such a problem with Berlin or Frankfurt.

Not doubting you, but what's the sample size here? Pretty interesting that regional differences like this do exist in some places. And anecdotally, friend of mine spoke pretty highly of Bavaria after a (very) short trip.

I can confirm that and I'm there regularly for business.

I assume it's because it's pretty much the pearl of the region (Bavaria) and if you take this away there is not much left. Also the city is full of pretty rich people who tend to this kind of behaviour.

You see the same in people where the location of the city is similar like Warsaw in Poland for example being surrounded by backwater villages.

Re: Luxembourg to be first European country to legalise cannabis

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Post by salsadip »

thecleaner wrote: post #56
Fnoord wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany, there's a huge difference between Bavaria/Munich and Berlin. In Berlin, cannabis might get confiscated while in Bavaria/Munich you end up with jail time. To aid further with irony, in Bavaria/Munich they drink a lot of beer (= drugs) during Oktoberfest.

Off topic but I found Bavaria to be much more snobbish in general. For example, point out something funny about them and they immediately go on the defensive, however everyt time they say something rude and you point it out, they play the German honesty card. Never had such a problem with Berlin or Frankfurt.

„Ohh Frankfurt is so ugly!“ first thing I heard when I said where i was from. Didn‘t care much for it but the bluntness dumbfounded me
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