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Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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Yelp is such a slimy company. First they wall off their mobile web reviews to try to force you to download their POS app, they have the whole extortion racket going trying to strongarm restaurants into paying for advertising, and now this. Friendly reminder - if you are on mobile and trying to read a Yelp review and don't want to download their app, simply hold refresh, click "request desktop site" and it will load t…

Are other companies that have apps but not sites (or their site is just a download button) slimy? Should yelp not be allowed to pivot from website to app? I might not agree with that strategic direction as a customer, but its well within their right as a company to choose what they want to be.

I stopped using Venmo when they removed the ability to send payments to other people through their website.

They're will within their rights to do so, but it's also mega dumb and as such I have the right to not give them anymore of my business.

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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If you take venture funding - by definition you’re not trying to run a lifestyle business - your only goal is an exit strategy.

Whose exit strategy? The companies or your own.

What’s the difference? If you take investor money you have given up control of your own fate.

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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It's hard to make money as a directory service with Google and Apple Maps around. The shadier they get, the bigger of a sign it is that they're in trouble financially, I would think.

I've tried using Google to find places to eat, but Yelp's search is just so much easier. If I'm in a new place, I just pull up Yelp, click "Restaurants" and go with the first thing that has food I like. It's never failed me yet. It might not be the best or cheapest around, but usually the thing with 4+ stars is still pretty good. We've found a couple of places that way where we keep going back every time we're in tow…

I would be happy if people started using more locally sourced info on restaurants and places to sleep. Tripadvisor/yelp etc. can destroy any local restaurant scene. IMO there is nothing more soulless than picking a tripadvisor top 10 restaurant just because it‘s listed there. I usually ask people i know or random locals for tips where to eat. Or look at local blogs. Or you just pick a random place. I feel like some people just don’t do that anymore.

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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You really think that Microsoft is losing money on Office 365 subscriptions?

That's what the GP said, not me. "They're basically giving away services and throwing money at it to pad growth for Azure."

I posted a link showing that MS does split off Office revenue from cloud revenue.

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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post #184

Makes me think really hard about tech’s blind adoration for the “PayPal mafia.” I find myself seeing more instances of soul crushing amoral behavior from this group of entrepreneurs than just about any other group.

The problem with using another form of payment is I won't purchase from a small business online without PayPal. PayPal offers consumer protection so I can take a risk with a company I don't trust yet. if it goes bad I can file a complaint and it will almost always get resolved.

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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Yelp is such a slimy company. First they wall off their mobile web reviews to try to force you to download their POS app, they have the whole extortion racket going trying to strongarm restaurants into paying for advertising, and now this. Friendly reminder - if you are on mobile and trying to read a Yelp review and don't want to download their app, simply hold refresh, click "request desktop site" and it will load t…

Yep, it’s a sad commentary on modern web development how often I request the desktop site while on mobile.

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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post #208

Amazing. Yelp redirects the customer who intended to look up their number in Yelp, redirects them GrubHub. GrubHub then grifts the restaurant for it. These online order companies are grifters. With tricks and sneaky fees, they exploit the restaurants, they exploit the customers, and if delivery is involved, they'll exploit the driver too.

I wonder what the solution is? Restaurants really should be running their own delivery, but that means hiring more staff which many cannot afford to do in a major city where commercial rents are extraordinary.

The solution is to enforce business transparency, and fair labor laws. It should be clear on the Yelp UI that they number they give me is for grubhub. If I want food delivered, it should be by drivers who are fairly compensated.

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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post #292

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I guess it depends on your POV. I haven't found a mobile website that I liked using. The touch/swipe/double-tap experience is always janky, sometimes you want to zoom in on a map, but it zooms the entire page, etc, etc. Maybe if it was just text with no interactivity, then being a mobile website wouldn't matter. Personally I don't mind spending a couple of minutes installing an app if its useful.

Just because you happen to always download mobile apps doesn't negate the fact that many people don't, and deliberately crippling a mobile site to coerce people to download an app they otherwise wouldn't is an extremely clear case of being user hostile.

I simply don't agree with your opinion. Hopefully thats still allowed here, and we can shake hands on that. Have a nice day..

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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post #306

Yelp is such a slimy company. First they wall off their mobile web reviews to try to force you to download their POS app, they have the whole extortion racket going trying to strongarm restaurants into paying for advertising, and now this. Friendly reminder - if you are on mobile and trying to read a Yelp review and don't want to download their app, simply hold refresh, click "request desktop site" and it will load t…

Yep, it’s a sad commentary on modern web development how often I request the desktop site while on mobile.

the worst is when the site refuses to give you the desktop version (surprised yelp hasn't done this yet)

need a "demand desktop version" option

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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post #184

Makes me think really hard about tech’s blind adoration for the “PayPal mafia.” I find myself seeing more instances of soul crushing amoral behavior from this group of entrepreneurs than just about any other group.

The problem with using another form of payment is I won't purchase from a small business online without PayPal. PayPal offers consumer protection so I can take a risk with a company I don't trust yet. if it goes bad I can file a complaint and it will almost always get resolved.

You don’t have to have paypal for that. You can easily contest any payment from your credit card.
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