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Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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I suppose if the app provided a better experience, then it wouldn't be user-hostile.

It needs to not just be better. It would need to be better in ways that aren't achievable with the alternative, and sufficiently better that it justifies the cost in terms of space and management requirements imposed.

And security risk of installing an app.

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post #130

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> tiny minimalist Dropbox competitor what is it? I'm lookin for alternatives

I heard you can do it quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.

Only for the linux user.

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Makes me think really hard about tech’s blind adoration for the “PayPal mafia.” I find myself seeing more instances of soul crushing amoral behavior from this group of entrepreneurs than just about any other group.

the ones on "tech" that profess blind adoration towards these people are the ones that are in it for the profits

Elon Musk is one of the paypal mafia, but it seems that many people who aren't "in it for the profits" profess blind adoration

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I've found Google Maps review quality and quantity improved over the last few years so it's rare that I'd even open Yelp in recent months. With this, I'm deleting my Yelp app.

When I used to use Yelp, I found the reviews are so hard to wade though. So many: - I had a bad time .. once. - This restaurant isn't as good as this other place that is twice as expensive. - We had to wait a "long time". - The food sucked (because they don't like the kind of food they serve...). - This place sucks and you should go to this other completely different place.

- Our waiter, Bob, was really good. Bob took our order, brought our food, and kept our beverages filled. Bob is a great waiter. totally-not-Bob.

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Yelp is such a slimy company. First they wall off their mobile web reviews to try to force you to download their POS app, they have the whole extortion racket going trying to strongarm restaurants into paying for advertising, and now this. Friendly reminder - if you are on mobile and trying to read a Yelp review and don't want to download their app, simply hold refresh, click "request desktop site" and it will load t…

Are other companies that have apps but not sites (or their site is just a download button) slimy? Should yelp not be allowed to pivot from website to app? I might not agree with that strategic direction as a customer, but its well within their right as a company to choose what they want to be.

I don't see anyone who said Yelp isn't allowed to use ethically questionable business tactics and user-hostile delivery mechanisms. We just don't have to like it, and we don't have to keep quiet about it while they do it.

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Are other companies that have apps but not sites (or their site is just a download button) slimy? Should yelp not be allowed to pivot from website to app? I might not agree with that strategic direction as a customer, but its well within their right as a company to choose what they want to be.

Depending how you set your Criteria, certainly Facebook for example will try its darnest not to let you read your messages on mobile browser, but rather force you to download the messenger ️. I would personally characterize that as slimy and annoying; others may well disagree. Internets are also full of condemnation for Reddit's app vs website, and their attempt to force the app upon user.

If you're on Android, try Opera - don't know why but it works (Either Opera did some custom script to hide the 'install messenger' banner, or FB code is broken. But shhh don't tell anyone.)

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I use Yelp since its significantly harder to fake reviews on it than it is on Google. That, and the community culture is centered on high-quality reviews.

Why is it harder to fake reviews on Yelp?

The algorithm's are much stricter, and most such reviews will be automatically hidden by Yelp, under "not recommended reviews".

https://www.yelp-support.com/article/Why-would-a-review-not-...

Re: Yelp Is Replacing Restaurants’ Phone Numbers So Grubhub Can Take a Cut

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It's hard to make money as a directory service with Google and Apple Maps around. The shadier they get, the bigger of a sign it is that they're in trouble financially, I would think.

Apple maps relies on Yelp for review information.

Which is really stupid because you have to download the app to actually read any of the reviews. Google, at least, displays the reviews right in the listing.

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Facebook did the same thing with Messenger

Fun tidbit: you can still access messenger via mbasic.facebook.com Looks ugly, but does the trick.

And with Opera on regular mobile site (don't know why, but it works on Opera)
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