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‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

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post #24

I can only imagine that there are a number of secondary effects of creating a skewed male/female ratio. Simply put, there are not enough women to go around. I suspect this leads to lots of overly fierce competition for women. Women treated more as precious commodities and less as human beings. Men lacking experience dealing with women. A certain percentage of men being unhappy much of the time because finding a mate…

Looking at China, I think it's the opposite actually? By being the rare commodity, you get to dictate terms and be picky with a lot to choose from.

It is probably both really as it varies by agency of the women. Horribly if they can't say no (trafficed) then they can't be picky and the increased demand leverage goes not to them but their traffickers. Economics and literal slavery starts horrifying and only gets worse.

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#62
post #13

That's just mothers exercising their body autonomy rights. Unless it can be shown that they are being forced to abort, I really don't see a problem.

It's perfectly possible to think both a) Women are free to abort & b) It's a societal problem if women as a group choose to heavily bias their abortion pattern by the fetus' gender.

Re: ‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

#63

Its a clickbait headline. Not saying that there isn't an issue with female foeticide in India but this study isn't it. There are nearly 700 villages in the district, and most of them are small enough to have Out of all those villages they just picked the ones which happened to have had no females. It is no coincidence, whoever did the study clearly knew what they were doing and cherry picked the data to sensationaliz…

Haven't actually read the study but not sure I understand your comment. Even if every village has only one birth, the probability of having no girls at random is 1/(2 700) which seems practically impossible. Perhaps there is something else that made you response critically of their methods?

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post #13

That's just mothers exercising their body autonomy rights. Unless it can be shown that they are being forced to abort, I really don't see a problem.

Even if they're not being forced, but still doing it based on skewed incentives in the society, it is definitely a problem.

Re: ‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

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post #58
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read the study? Are you qualified to evaluate the statistical methodology and have you done such an analysis? If so fine, but otherwise neither you nor I are qualified to make a statement like that. There does seem to be something going on. According to Wikipedia only 43% of the population of the region are female. If 63 million women are statistically missing from the Indian population, I think it's pretty…

The entire comment section is full of Indian bros reflexively inventing reasons why something like this is a put on in order to make India bad. Every comment section of any article that might put India in a bad light is. It's a particular brand of motivated reasoning, and I get it. But yeah India is not a great place for girls and women. That's changing bit by bit in the more advanced places but it's such a vast coun…

Time for me to link here:

https://caravanmagazine.in/science-technology/what-genetics-...

"People tend to think of India, with its more than 1.3 billion people, as having a tremendously large population"

and

"The truth is that India is composed of a large number of small populations"

(There is incredibly little marrying outside ones own group.)

Re: ‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

#66
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is it's not analysis. It's a completely unsubstantiated assertion of fact based on what's actually a wild guess. The info in the article isn't a study, it barely even summarises a study, and I'm willing to go out on a limb and say the commenter hasn't read the actual study. If so saying "this study isn't it" isn't simply an opinion, it's misrepresentation.

You're more than entitled to your opinion. You're not entitled to tell someone to shut up because of it.

Let’s not put propaganda and informed opinion on the same pedestal.

Re: ‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

#67
post #58
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read the study? Are you qualified to evaluate the statistical methodology and have you done such an analysis? If so fine, but otherwise neither you nor I are qualified to make a statement like that. There does seem to be something going on. According to Wikipedia only 43% of the population of the region are female. If 63 million women are statistically missing from the Indian population, I think it's pretty…

The entire comment section is full of Indian bros reflexively inventing reasons why something like this is a put on in order to make India bad. Every comment section of any article that might put India in a bad light is. It's a particular brand of motivated reasoning, and I get it. But yeah India is not a great place for girls and women. That's changing bit by bit in the more advanced places but it's such a vast coun…

Comments are swarming with misdirection from Indians right now.

Even if you cherry pick data, what even is probability of getting consecutive 216 heads on a coin toss? It is amazing that Indians here are acting as if female infanticide/foeticide is not a big menace in India.

Re: ‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

#68
post #31

Its a clickbait headline. Not saying that there isn't an issue with female foeticide in India but this study isn't it. There are nearly 700 villages in the district, and most of them are small enough to have Out of all those villages they just picked the ones which happened to have had no females. It is no coincidence, whoever did the study clearly knew what they were doing and cherry picked the data to sensationaliz…

Have you read the study? Are you qualified to evaluate the statistical methodology and have you done such an analysis? If so fine, but otherwise neither you nor I are qualified to make a statement like that. There does seem to be something going on. According to Wikipedia only 43% of the population of the region are female. If 63 million women are statistically missing from the Indian population, I think it's pretty…

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Re: ‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

#69
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haven't actually read the study but not sure I understand your comment. Even if every village has only one birth, the probability of having no girls at random is 1/(2 700) which seems practically impossible. Perhaps there is something else that made you response critically of their methods?

Over 700 villages, all with a birth rate of about two births per 3 months, there might very well be 132 villages with no girls born, 140 villages with no boys born, and 428 villages with one boy and one girl born. It wouldn't be alarming at all. But if these villages represent a contiguous area, then it is alarming. The article doesn't really give enough information to say anything about this really.

Data is from a single district, and then blocks. So blocks are contiguous. Analogous to say New York metro area, and then Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens etc.

Re: ‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

#70
India is building more and more tensions, and it's really worrying me.

They have 1.3 billions of people, living under an unbelievable social pressure (casts, diversity, religion, money...), on a land saturated by pollution with less and less water to drink.

Reading this article, it seems possible they are running toward a gender crisis as well. Sex frustration is already a terrible thing there, and a big source of trouble. If this proves right, I don't see a way for it to end well.

Now add on top of that they have very unstable borders and the nuclear weapon, and we got all the ingredients for something bad to happen.

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