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“Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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Re: “Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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While I very much agree with your sentiment (email marketing is usually a bad thing ), this article seems like a small example of "psychological hacking" and I hate to admit how interesting this sort of thing really is. It frightens me to know that there are people who spend as much time optimizing the performance of their marketing messages as we do on algorithms. The key difference (at least this is what I tell mys…

If you keep thinking that way, you're doing yourself a great disservice. No matter _how_ great your algorithms are, without letting people know about it, you won't sell anything. Like everywhere else, 90% of everything is crap and "marketing" is no exception, but how many bingo cards do you suppose Patrick would have sold if he wasn't greatly skilled at some oft-disparaged disciplines like SEO and email marketing? Ma…

Hey, I said it was evil... I never said it wasn't a necessary evil. Obviously having salesmen is just the way the world works, and just like how libertarianism, communism, and utopian markets could all work in an ideal world, I recognize that's not the world we live in.

Re: “Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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post #48

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It's about control. With email, I can't control what I receive. If I want to unsubscribe from your newsletter, I'm at the mercy of your site. That sucks. If you want to send me an email because you came up with a message just for me, wonderful! If you want me to ready your form letter that you send to 100,000 people and that I didn't really ask for, fuck you and fuck your conversion rate. Sending me email is a gift;…

Don't ask to be emailed, and you won't get emailed.

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Re: “Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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post #38
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I think people think the "Merry Christmas $name" email is not spam (it looks like a message from a friend), so they open and read. "Happy Holidays" is something that only people trying to sell you something say, so you mentally filter that email. The conversion rate is just a depressing example of how people will buy anything you tell them to. Once you get people to read your email, you'll much more likely to convert…

I sold a few hundred dollars of BCC with an email whose subject line was "Merry Christmas from Bingo Card Creator" It went to somewhere like 1,500 teachers who had previously expressed an interest in playing educational bingo and asked for a monthly email newsletter reminding them about activities they would probably like. The content is pretty predictable: it is almost Christmas, you're busy, here's something which…

What do you use to design/send your newsletters?

Re: “Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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People like the author of this post try to abuse my attention, and that is not OK with me. What does 'abuse my attention' mean to you? Is it unsolicited (spam) email, or just any form of marketing/promotion in general? This is an important point to address for startup founders who often rely on obtaining and nurturing attention relationships with their users.

When you email me, that means that you update one of the only two applications on my Dock that's programmed to show a number — and the other one is a To Do application. Is your email as important as my to-do list telling me what I've got due today? If not, don't send it. When you email me, that means you update one of the only three applications on my Phone that are enabled to show me a number — and the other two are…

Sure, because you're the center of the world and everybody else should think about your specific setup and technology fetish of the week rolls eyes.

Look, I dislike spam as much as the next guy, but being an entitled whiner like you are in this post is beyond ridiculous. If you don't like advertising and businesses trying to sell you stuff, move to North Korea and send me a postcard next Christmas to let us know how you're doing.

Re: “Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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post #38

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I sold a few hundred dollars of BCC with an email whose subject line was "Merry Christmas from Bingo Card Creator" It went to somewhere like 1,500 teachers who had previously expressed an interest in playing educational bingo and asked for a monthly email newsletter reminding them about activities they would probably like. The content is pretty predictable: it is almost Christmas, you're busy, here's something which…

What do you use to design/send your newsletters?

MailChimp. Strong recommendation: does all the hard stuff for you, gets you to actually sending with minimum of work, great API, responsive support, most beautiful UI you will ever see in a web app. Sends swag to customers for Christmas, girlfriend says mascot tshirt makes me look hot.

Re: “Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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post #5

I think people think the "Merry Christmas $name" email is not spam (it looks like a message from a friend), so they open and read. "Happy Holidays" is something that only people trying to sell you something say, so you mentally filter that email. The conversion rate is just a depressing example of how people will buy anything you tell them to. Once you get people to read your email, you'll much more likely to convert…

This is basically why I give everyone a unique email address, and /dev/null the address after I stop needing it.

Offtopic, but what service do you use for this email redirection setup? Or do you run your own mail server? I do exactly the same thing, currently using MyDomain.com, but looking for a better alternative.

Re: “Merry Christmas" vs. "Happy Holidays" - nearly double the conversion rate.

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post #66

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When you email me, that means that you update one of the only two applications on my Dock that's programmed to show a number — and the other one is a To Do application. Is your email as important as my to-do list telling me what I've got due today? If not, don't send it. When you email me, that means you update one of the only three applications on my Phone that are enabled to show me a number — and the other two are…

Sure, because you're the center of the world and everybody else should think about your specific setup and technology fetish of the week rolls eyes . Look, I dislike spam as much as the next guy, but being an entitled whiner like you are in this post is beyond ridiculous. If you don't like advertising and businesses trying to sell you stuff, move to North Korea and send me a postcard next Christmas to let us know how…

It saddens me that people who don't wish to be subjected to consumerist bullshit are labelled 'entitled whiner[s]'.

It's perfectly reasonable for someone to _not_ want, what consumerism brings them. People who decide they don't like receiving marketing emails - trying to dupe them into making a purchase - shouldn't be required to opt-out of society.

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post #40

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> It's unreasonable for everyone who wants to e-mail you to predict that you have an aggressive notification system. No, it's not. Maybe it was when we didn't have RSS and other "push" systems like Twitter and Facebook to handle people who didn't know who wanted to see their updates but assumed somebody might. Now, however, there is little reason to push content directly to my inbox rather than letting me specify the…

While I agree completely with your point of view about how I'd like the world to use email, I'm pragmatic enough to realize that most of the world doesn't think that way. Most people use email to forward chain mail and pictures of cats. Even phone calls and SMS are "abused" by marketing people, and all most people do is complain about call centers ringing them up at meal times. I _try_ to use unique email adresses, b…

"Most people use email to forward chain mail and pictures of cats."

No, no they don't. That was pre-facebook - most of those users have moved there now.

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