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Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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Hazelnut spread is one of those things that is much more commonly referred to as the brand name. No one says "Reynolds wrap" they say "aluminum foil". No one says "hazelnut spread", they say Nutella. No one says "resealable sandwich bags", they say ziploc bags.

Most people would just say "sandwich" unless the spread is somehow critical to the tale. I know it's a quote, but it sounds most odd to me as most people I know don't really brand drop in conversation. Coke is probably the big exception there... TIL what ziploc bags are. Just called "sandwich bags" here. Cling film isn't "sarran wrap" here either. :)

> Coke is probably the big exception there...

Even then, it may not be. There are plenty of places where Coke has become the generic name for pop, and doesn't necessarily refer to the brand.

Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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There's more to life than either math or money, haha. I think a lot of people might fit something in there about friends, family, or community. Spiritual growth maybe? There's options.

I venture to say that spiritual growth is part of consciousness — that is, it's "math and thinking in other ways", which is of course what I said above, not "math". As for friends, family, and community, what is it that gives friendship value, if not your conscious experience of the friendship, and your friend's? Could you coherently call something a good friendship if neither friend enjoys it or improves their think…

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Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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Slightly related: One thing I've learnt in Physics is that there are still a huge number of practical and fundamental problems to be solved. You might expect everything easy will already be done by now but that's just not true. Hence we still manage to write so many papers! In fact many Physicists have too many papers they want to write and not enough time to write them. This was a huge surprise for me coming in to m…

Just yesterday I was watching a video about machining flat surfaces, and it was mentioned that the reason why two very flat surfaces stick together isn't thoroughly understood yet. We can build things that deal with unimaginable precision, create new elements, compute with quantum effects, but we don't know why flat things stick together?

I always thought this was just air pressure, and their extreme flatness just didn't allow for air to come in between the two objects to counteract it.

Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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There are various people speculating on the economic significance of this solution, which, to me, is rather missing the point. It's like measuring the significance of the excavation of Tutankhamen's† tomb by the tourist revenues of museums. The point of economics is that it keeps us alive so we can do math and also think in other ways; the point of consciousness is not to make money. I don't think there is any econom…

It might be useful for a massive scale gravitational lens in some post-scarcity future :)

It's still incredibly cool that there are solvable problems of this sort still put there.

Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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Nutella though is a sugar-and-palm/vegetable-oil spread, which - probably accidentally - contains traces of hazelnuts, powdered milk and cocoa.

I don't understand the downvoting of the parent here, which is factually correct and worth noting. It's incredibly unhealthy and this is just down to marketing that anybody eats it. You can make really nice chocolate spreads with your own hazelnuts

Nothing in that comment is factually correct or worth noting. Do you realize what butter, Marmelade, Margarine or vegetable spreads are mostly made of?

Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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I notice you don't seem to have dared to say you disagree — would you say that the point of consciousness is to make money?

Although I agree with your main point (it's closer to the truth that the point of economics is so that we can do mathematics, than the other way around), perhaps it can be refined to incorporate the fact that not all experience is cognitive; not all enjoyment is intellectual. The feeling of joy/bliss/whatever from being with friends and family, of doing a job well, of leaving a legacy, of having good health, dignity,…

Glad you enjoyed it!

Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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post #111

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I thought the point of photography was primarily so that you (people, in general, not necessarily just you individually) could look at the photos, i.e., experience them consciously, and secondarily to consciously experience the process of photography itself. But perhaps you have a different reason for considering photography worthwhile, other than the conscious experience of the photographs and of the photography pro…

Sure, various systems can use photographs to automatically do useful stuff like pea sorting even if a person is never aware of individual photos.

That sounds like a means to making money, not a viable third alternative.

Re: Goodbye Aberration: Physicist Solves 2,000-Year-Old Optical Problem

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post #189
post #169

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Sure, various systems can use photographs to automatically do useful stuff like pea sorting even if a person is never aware of individual photos.

That sounds like a means to making money, not a viable third alternative.

It’s not just cheaper products, self driving cars are another advantage to machines taking and interpreting their own photos.

Extend this to asteroid tracking and it may be the difference between human survival and extinction.

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