The heritability of fertility makes world population stabilization unlikely
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Re: The heritability of fertility makes world population stabilization unlikely
#42The authors seem to have a background in economics, does that really fit the research topic of that paper?
>> This finding implies that individuals with genetic predispositions for an earlier AFB had a reproductive advantage and that natural selection operated not only in historical, but also in contemporary populations. The observed postponement in the AFB across the past century in Europe contrasts with these findings, suggesting an evolutionary override by environmental effects and underscoring that evolutionary predictions in modern human societies are not straight forward. Yeah, so basically we got a simple model by two economists vs. decades of empirical data?
It'd be funny if it wouldn't sound like a scientists version of the "immigrants will have a lot of children and replace us" lie.
Re: The heritability of fertility makes world population stabilization unlikely
#43The authors seem to have a background in economics, does that really fit the research topic of that paper?
Re: The heritability of fertility makes world population stabilization unlikely
#44In urban societies, children are expensive to rear and educate until they can become productive, and the care of the aged depends on social institutions. This encourages small families.
However, if urban societies socialize the cost of rearing and educating children, then that disincentive will be removed and families may become larger. Ethnic subgroups with strong extended families and religious solidarity tend to have larger families, even in urban settings.
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#45This is ridiculous. The replacement fertility rate to maintain population before modern medicine could be closer to ten than two not so long ago. War, famine, disease, accidents, and infant mortality made it so surviving until you were old enough to start having your own children was rare and women were often pregnant or nursing continuously as long as they were fertile. The premise of heritable fertility driving pop…
> The premise of heritable fertility driving population and reproduction rates in humans is really far off. Yes, until reliably accessible contraception fertility was driven by the desire to have sex. > If it were true fertility rates could not possibly have dropped so far in so few generations after modern medicine and the insane reduction in violent death rates seen in the last thousand years. This assumes no chang…
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#46My father's parents had 8 surviving children.
My mother's parents had 8 surviving children.
My parents had 4 surviving children.
I have 4 children.
My siblings have, on average, 3 children, and will probably have 3.5 over time.
My cousin's have on average 3.5 children.
Grandparents: Asian.
Parents: Asian and lived in Middle East half their life.
Me and siblings: Living primarily in Middle East.
Re: The heritability of fertility makes world population stabilization unlikely
#47If this is true, then how do they explain population stabilization in, e.g., Europe, and other developed areas? Why shouldn't what worked for Europe work for the rest of the world?
ETA: I see from your other comment that you meant "stopped growing" so my comment doesn't really apply.
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#48I have always wondered whether something like this could be observed. I wonder, shouldn't this be already observable? I would look not at the median/mean fertility, but on the outliers on the upper end. If the share increases/becomes more expressed in social groups that are not associated with a large number of children otherwise, one should see indicators that the theory is has some thruth. Also, we are talking abou…
Then this study more directly measured fertility's rate of evolution: https://www.pnas.org/content/115/1/151. They used UK Biobank data (genetic data from 157,807 female and 115,902 male unrelated samples). They found the 'Age at First Birth' is the most strongly selected trait in the British population. So in the future we can look forward to a world filled with teenage mums.
That this is not obvious to everyone is just a testiment to how little people understand about evolution.
Re: The heritability of fertility makes world population stabilization unlikely
#49This is ridiculous. The replacement fertility rate to maintain population before modern medicine could be closer to ten than two not so long ago. War, famine, disease, accidents, and infant mortality made it so surviving until you were old enough to start having your own children was rare and women were often pregnant or nursing continuously as long as they were fertile. The premise of heritable fertility driving pop…