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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Buy a spare. > What if the spare breaks as well? The universe hates you, you're doomed.

So the solution is to have a briefcase full of dongles? That's why I no longer have a Mac and have a Windows laptop instead.

That’s a bullshit argument. My SO‘s Lenovo Laptops USB A ports broke. My USB-C Ports seem significantly more robust, not by implementation but by design. I don’t care about some five dollar China dongle- I care about the connectors of my computer and in this regard there is not a single connector that can compete with USB-C.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Lmao disappearing ports didn't start after Jobs died. Jobs had a vandetta against ports.

Bullshit. Jobs had no vendetta against ports. Macs and macbook pro back in those days had all the ports.

Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines and sticking to the rules when posting here? This one breaks them pretty badly.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Just echoing some absurd justifications/arguments for bad design made by diehard Apple fans.

Just because you saw a dumb comment once doesn't mean you have to use it as a strawman. It's a negative to the design, but the worst possible case is you go read or watch something where you won't need your mouse for 10 minutes.

Or just buy a second mouse.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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He made a lot of good points and then his entire argument went out the window in the last sentence.

So because you don't agree with 1 out of the 15 points, suddenly those other 14 are null and void? Pffff. You just have to look at all the "No, it's really not that bad a price" comments re the upcoming Mac Pro to see he does have a point there.

But does he really have a point about the Mac Pro, though? "This computer is ridiculously priced for my use case" != "this computer is ridiculously priced for the use case it was intended." The 2019 Mac Pro is going after the workstation market that SGI in particular was in a quarter-century ago, whose "entry-level" machines started at $10K.

I get why people are salty about the 2019 Mac Pro not being the Mac Pro they wanted. It's not the Mac Pro I wanted -- it's not the Mac Pro I owned, although back then it was called the PowerMac G5. But the PowerMac and original tower Mac Pros were always a bit of an anomaly in the Mac timeline, anyway; most of their flagships trended toward "holy hand grenades that's expensive" rather than "that's a little expensive but I bet I could swing it." The Macintosh IIfx started at $9000 in 1990; it was replaced by Apple's first tower, a Quadra 900, for a mere $7200 a year later, this at a time when an average PC was under $2K.

If someone wanted to make a serious critique of Apple's pricing, they'd be far better off starting with "look at how expensive their most expensive stuff is," it'd be "look at how expensive their least expensive stuff is." You could certainly build that case for Macs, where the cheapest option is $799 and the cheapest (modern) notebook is $1199.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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I'll let you in on a secret: You don't have to buy Apple-branded dongles if you have an Apple computer. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb-c+sd-card+reader https://www.amazon.com/s?k=thunderbolt+3+hdmi

As my post makes clear, I was travelling at the time. I'll also "let you in on a secret": Apple don't make a USB-C SD card reader.

So, you're traveling to that place on three separate occasions and you somehow always end up in the same Apple store that already ripped you off before?

I'm starting to believe you like it that way.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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post #810

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Bullshit. Jobs had no vendetta against ports. Macs and macbook pro back in those days had all the ports.

Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines and sticking to the rules when posting here? This one breaks them pretty badly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I’ve amended, and I am confident that my tone is appropriate to that which I am replying.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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post #766

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Apologies, I messed up my capitalization. That ought to have been "MB". You're right that things like compact flash are faster, but USB 3 has can handle over 600 MB per second.

you still need the card to support that speed though... I'd imagine the card reader and USB are the same speed, unless they screwed up the implementation of the reader

Still not sure I understand what you mean. If you have a slower USB, slower card reader, or slower card, all components are bound by that speed. The USB 3 supports a much faster than the card speed; I'm guessing most readers are similar speed. The cards themselves are the limiting factor here.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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The fastest SD cards are 300 megabytes/second, not megabit. All my Sandisk Extreme Pro cards, for example. I also have a bunch of Extreme Pro CF cards that are 160MB/s. And then there's CFast - speeds in the 400MB/s range.

Apologies, I messed up my capitalization. That ought to have been "MB". You're right that things like compact flash are faster, but USB 3 has can handle over 600 MB per second.

Right, but modern cards can certainly saturate USB 2.0 easily.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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post #812

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Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines and sticking to the rules when posting here? This one breaks them pretty badly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I’ve amended, and I am confident that my tone is appropriate to that which I am replying.

The bar is 'appropriate for the forum', though.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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So the solution is to have a briefcase full of dongles? That's why I no longer have a Mac and have a Windows laptop instead.

That’s a bullshit argument. My SO‘s Lenovo Laptops USB A ports broke. My USB-C Ports seem significantly more robust, not by implementation but by design. I don’t care about some five dollar China dongle- I care about the connectors of my computer and in this regard there is not a single connector that can compete with USB-C.

>> That’s a bullshit argument.

I said "That's why I no longer have a Mac and have a Windows laptop instead." It's not an argument. It's simply a statement of fact that explains a choice I've made for myself.

I literally switched from a user serviceable Mac laptop with plenty of ports (15" 2011 MBP) to user serviceable PC laptops with plenty of ports, with one of the primary reasons being that the newer Macbook models didn't satisfy my desire to have a full suite of ports that includes ethernet.

As for broken ports/connectors, I've had zero port failures in almost 3 decades of laptop ownership, and I don't consider myself to be very gentle plugging/unplugging my peripherals.

At the moment, I have 2 laptops with USB-C and 3 without. I personally don't see a huge difference in robustness between the USB-C and USB-A ports. Even when I buy a USB-C laptop, I still make sure that it still has at least one USB-A port so I can have dongle-free interoperability with my peripherals.

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