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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by giobox » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:35 PM UTC

gridlockd wrote: post #683

oliveshell wrote: post #656

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If I want to get 10 GB of RAW photos onto my 2013 MacBook Pro, I just pop the SD card out of the camera and into the laptop. Transfer is done in about a minute or two. No SD card reader means the new MBP just couldn’t do this without dongles, full stop. That’s a step backwards.

> No SD card reader means the new MBP just couldn’t do this without dongles, full stop. So you go out and buy a dongle. Or you just connect the Camera with a cable and you don't have to fiddle with the tiny SD card. I personally never use SD cards, or any other flash cards. I never use the ethernet jack on a laptop. I very rarely use thumbdrives or other USB devices. I also don't use serial out, or PCMCIA, or compact…

I've on three separate occasions had to run to an Apple store to buy the SD card reader dongle AGAIN because I left one of them at home while travelling. On each occasion the only option was the expensive 50 dollar SanDisk one, so i'm 150 dollars out of pocket due to this questionable choice already.

My wife has had similar experiences with the HDMI adapter.

This was of course never a problem during the years in which Apple provided a sensible choice of ports, built right into the machine.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by sgc » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:37 PM UTC

kevinslashslash wrote: post #642

sgc wrote: post #615

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Are you saying face ID is so fragile moving the camera 1 inch or less than an inch to the right kills all functionality? You manage to line your phone up so precisely each time you use it?

Not OP, but I believe he's talking about how the iPhone's large notch size is due to additional hardware used by face id. Having that size notch on the left/right side wouldn't be much better than in the center. Personally, I'd rather use my fingerprint anyway.

They have infrared and dot projector, otherwise every phone has mic, speaker, proximity sensor, etc. They chose to stuff everything in the notch, it wasn't necessary.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by iamgopal » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:43 PM UTC

I never felt less compelled to buy iPhone.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by jonplackett » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:44 PM UTC

Been thinking about this and what it says to me is there’s nothing that interesting going to come out of apple for the next 5 years.

If something totally amazing - AR glasses etc was coming even reasonably soon, no way he is leaving now

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by OldSchoolJohnny » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:48 PM UTC

webbrahmin wrote: post #607

I used to love my mac book pro. Sadly, it is not the same device which it used to be. The quest to make it thinner has actually made it a substandard machine. I feel Apple has lost a lot of developer love and brand capital since Jobs. I am hoping things would improve on the product front. Not all devs live in the US. For devs in developing countries, a mac book pro is a serious investment. We want a machine which is…

MBP was rarely the best option for most developers, just the coolest one or they were succumbing to peer pressure, any other explanation has always been inexplicable.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by FireBeyond » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:49 PM UTC

bin0 wrote: post #693

robinmayfair wrote: post #660

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“Full Stop” is always a good argument. I have a USB-C card reader which I guarantee you is faster than the one you have. Sure, internal card readers were nice. But they’re gone from Apple now. Really not sure why people keep talking about this.

Show me the SD card that can saturate USB 3 or USB C. The fastest sony cards top out at about 300Mbps. Heck, USB 2 could handle that at top speed (theoretically; most implementations stunk). USB C is better with really high bandwidth things like eGPU, 4k displays, etc., but sd cards are not the best argument to make here.

The fastest SD cards are 300 megabytes/second, not megabit. All my Sandisk Extreme Pro cards, for example. I also have a bunch of Extreme Pro CF cards that are 160MB/s.

And then there's CFast - speeds in the 400MB/s range.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by OldSchoolJohnny » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:49 PM UTC

valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

Jesus that's thin gruel to bring up..no? How about some actual innovation? Has anything truly innovative happened in smartphones for the last decade?

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by Operyl » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:50 PM UTC

xenospn wrote: post #720

dsego wrote: post #573

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Oh interesting, I did not think of that.

"Designed by Apple in California, where cigarettes do not exist"

To be fair cigarettes do a ton of damage to a ton of materials.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by OldSchoolJohnny » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:51 PM UTC

fnord77 wrote: post #108

valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

given their recent focus on being a services/media company, it wouldn't surprise me if they moved out of hardware entirely at some point in the future.

I think you're more right than people are giving credit for. They clearly haven't cared much about their hardware with any true innovation for a long time.

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Post by FireBeyond » Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:51 PM UTC

spectramax wrote: post #726

bayareanative wrote: post #612

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Everyone should watch the Louis Rossmann channel before lionizing, much less even saying anything good about modern MBP's they don't seem to understand what's been lost and what sucks. It's not been a long-lasting product for at least 5 years: - the batteries are glued in, making them very difficult to change - there's no locking slot - GPU goes out - the unencapsulated (motherboard) is very susceptible to any humidi…

Louis Rossmann and his cult followers - they seem to feed on the righteousness cause that Rossmann has cultivated over the years. His rants do have truth but the way he conveys is emotion driven and designed to lure people into this cult of Apple haters. There is one thing to criticize Apple on objective basis and another to develop a deep sense of hatred, vulgar insults, angry rants, personal attacks and fostering d…

There's a certain irony or je ne sais quoi that Apple themselves try very hard (desperately?) to have truth conveyed in a way that is emotion driven and designed to lure people in.