Bye Bye Jony Ive you will not be missed.
Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client
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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client
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it doesn't even mean that. I've seen unfolding Ethernet ports that still let the laptop be crazy thin
That's why I said normal, in fact! I'm not entirely sure how durable those weird Ethernet ports are, but they certainly exist.
I have only one laptop that had an "expanding" ethernet port (a Lenovo), and it's not great. It's the first flaky built-in ethernet port I've ever had in a laptop.
Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client
#803The new headquarters syndrome strikes again. Ive, sidelined, went eyeballs deep into the new headquarters, alongside a decline in physical product quality like the trashcan design miss and keyboard gremlins. Hardware and software teams kept executing but there’s clearly a need for a change in design.
It’s Steve Jobs’ mausoleum. Probably an important landmark for the next century, even if it’s a distraction now. I’m sure most mausoleums seem pointless when they are built but a good mausoleum can be an important player in future history.
Wow, that's an interesting way to put it.
Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client
#804Aside from the iPod, I've never liked any Apple product. They feel constraining, less practical, less compatible, less comfortable, more expensive.
The value of Apple products is mostly based on marketing. Apple sells products by appealing to people's insecurities. Apple products appeal to status-focused people who want to see themselves as cool and sophisticated to the point that they are willing to overlook the terrible UX.
The mouse is so flat, it makes your hand sore. The keys are so low and sensitive that you keep hitting the wrong keys and they easily break. The navigation for most of their UI makes no sense. If you open the laptop while it's sitting on your laps, it will pinch you when you open it. Having to use Command+C to copy stuff by pushing with your thumb is awkward even after years of use. Siri will keep popping up when your finger accidentally touches some random key. Switching between multiple desktops/windows is a pain (e.g. even compared to Ubuntu). Finder is shockingly bad; it's a struggle to navigate; merely copying the current directory path is infeasible... The list of UX problems goes on and on; I'm not even a UX designer but I can see all these problems.
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I think the argument for using universal chargers or battery packs makes sense for phones, where it is certainly understandable that you'd find yourself somewhere with a phone but without means to charge it - most people carry their phones in a pocket, where a charger battery might not fit or be comfortable to carry. Moments where you'd find yourself with a laptop but without a charger are far harder to imagine for m…
When you are flying in economy there is no power and in business class the power is limited. Battery pack are necessary to work on long haul flight. Similar for other long trips e.g train.
Where do you live? At least 90% of my flights in economy class (US) in the past 2 years have had in-seat power. The other ones mostly didn't because they were either super low budget (or Hawaiian Airlines - worst airline I've flown more than once) or there was a reliability issue. I'd still prefer to have a battery pack as a backup, but the lack of power in the seat is now much less of an issue than the fact that there's no room in economy class to work without straining your arms.
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I've on three separate occasions had to run to an Apple store to buy the SD card reader dongle AGAIN because I left one of them at home while travelling. On each occasion the only option was the expensive 50 dollar SanDisk one, so i'm 150 dollars out of pocket due to this questionable choice already. My wife has had similar experiences with the HDMI adapter. This was of course never a problem during the years in whic…
I'll let you in on a secret: You don't have to buy Apple-branded dongles if you have an Apple computer. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb-c+sd-card+reader https://www.amazon.com/s?k=thunderbolt+3+hdmi
As my post makes clear, I was travelling at the time.
I'll also "let you in on a secret": Apple don't make a USB-C SD card reader.
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I liked this. It looked like a toy but it had pretty serious internals. Kind of the opposite of how things are now ...
Unpopular view - Jobs kept Ive focussed. Jobs, for all his many faults, had very, very good taste, and also had a user's-eye view of design. Ives seems to have a designer's eye view on design. Without Jobs to keep him on track he started designing for posterity and for design magazine pictorials - not for customers. The classic designs - blue iMac, iPod, iPhone, laptops, possibly the initial MacPro sketches - all hap…
Lmao disappearing ports didn't start after Jobs died. Jobs had a vandetta against ports.
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#808The most important designer of the 21st century so far, he was responsible for the most successful product of all time and a design aesthetic that reshaped the whole industry. I find it hard to judge individual features and products, because who knows how or why specific decisions were made. An amazing legacy, I really look forward to an autobiography, it will probably the closest we will ever get to the Ives/Jobs te…
Personally I've cringed at every design decision he's brought about since iOS 7 and the flat design push. Skeuomorphism was perfect, and virtually every Apple product has been dragged down since then.
Thank you for saying this. After their switch to the ultra flat design, I'm still unsure where the buttons are. It's ridiculous.
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Apples design has been a big yawner for a few years now. Apple watch and MBPr impressed me. Since then? Seems like the design had actively getting worse since 2015 I.E. MBP with touchbar. The Mac Pro and Apples new display don't look terrible to me but the cheese grater aesthetics aren't amazing either and it's a bit of a rehash of the Powermac G5. There was also that charger they cancelled. Maybe apple should consid…
I consider the current iPad Pro lineup to be a step in the right direction. Those sharp, flat edges remind of the iconic iPhone 4 / 5 / SE design language. The recent roundness of iPhones in contrast feels rather conventional and boring.
Yeah the iPad Pro is the one product stack I like in Apples stack.
Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client
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Unpopular view - Jobs kept Ive focussed. Jobs, for all his many faults, had very, very good taste, and also had a user's-eye view of design. Ives seems to have a designer's eye view on design. Without Jobs to keep him on track he started designing for posterity and for design magazine pictorials - not for customers. The classic designs - blue iMac, iPod, iPhone, laptops, possibly the initial MacPro sketches - all hap…
Lmao disappearing ports didn't start after Jobs died. Jobs had a vandetta against ports.
Bullshit. Jobs had no vendetta against ports. Macs and macbook pro back in those days had all the ports.