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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by thstart »

mrcarruthers wrote: post #713
felideon wrote: post #703

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Worse yet. Walk into an Apple store and buy their top of the line laptop and top of the line mouse, and take them home -- realize a few days (maybe weeks, to be fair) later that you cannot charge your mouse with your laptop without a dongle.

Even worse yet, once you get the dongle you cannot use your mouse while it is charging cause the port is on the bottom.

And this is specifically designed to not use the mouse when charging to not damage the mouse battery. There is a reason but it needs digging.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by thstart »

CPLX wrote: post #692
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #655

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What dongle epidemic? A USB-C version of every important cord or connector has existed for _years_. Anyone who still has dongles is choosing them.

If you walk into an Apple store and buy their top of the line laptop and top of the line phone and take them home you’ll quickly realize there is no way to plug them in to each other. That is, in fact, stupid.

Use AirDrop.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by threeseed »

xxs wrote: post #556
threeseed wrote: post #159

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I use two USB-C to HDMI adapters every day and never had issues. Maybe try a different manufacturer.

So you are saying: having a built-in hdmi port would have been useful. There is very little reason not to have all ports - hmdi, mini display port (+display port) readily available; connected straight to the video card. There is plenty of room.

No because I would still need a DisplayPort to HDMI dongle.

I would rather just stick with the one USB-C connector.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by threeseed »

torben-friis wrote: post #205
threeseed wrote: post #156

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USB-C is infinitely better than Magsafe. You can use any charger, use battery packs and any third party cable which means far more reliability and quality.

I think the argument for using universal chargers or battery packs makes sense for phones, where it is certainly understandable that you'd find yourself somewhere with a phone but without means to charge it - most people carry their phones in a pocket, where a charger battery might not fit or be comfortable to carry. Moments where you'd find yourself with a laptop but without a charger are far harder to imagine for m…

When you are flying in economy there is no power and in business class the power is limited.

Battery pack are necessary to work on long haul flight.

Similar for other long trips e.g train.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by sleepinseattle »

TheKarateKid wrote: post #716
app-pole wrote: post #667

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Apple has very skilled engineers, makes great strides in security, and I'm impressed by their hardware skills. However, UX is their weakness. I don't know why we keep pretending that UX is Apple's strength. Have you used their window manager? Have you used their workspace implementation? Clearly they haven't used it themselves. Everything about the Mac UI is geared toward just having a pile of windows in one workspac…

Agreed. The only thing that mitigated this is that larger screens naturally made us more prone to having a bunch of windows open on a screen. Back in the 1024x768 days, not being able to maximize a window on Mac was ridiculous. "Full screen" view is/was a terrible "solution" to this. The fact that windows can't be "snapped" like on Windows is so frustrating. (Yes, I know there are 3rd party apps for this.)

> The fact that windows can't be "snapped" like on Windows is so frustrating.

They can actually: press and hold the green button, then drag the window to the side.

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Post by foldr »

__david__ wrote: post #768
slantyyz wrote: post #699

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They aren't for me. While I would say Macs have always had excellent pads, I still hated them. I want to be able to have a finger on a physical button that doesn't detect any touch movements when dragging something.

You have to turn off "Tap to click" in the touchpad preferences. I can't remember if it is on by default or not, but it's the one thing I can't deal with. Any sort of accidental brush acts like a click and that's annoying, which sounds like what you are complaining about.

It's not on by default, which is what puzzles me about slantyyz's comments. I can't imagine anyone finding clicking and dragging more difficult on a macbook than on another laptop.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by Dylan16807 »

8note wrote: post #782
Dylan16807 wrote: post #778

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It's not a consequence of being an ultrabook. Being thin means you can't have VGA or normal ethernet ports. Everything else can fit.

it doesn't even mean that. I've seen unfolding Ethernet ports that still let the laptop be crazy thin

That's why I said normal, in fact! I'm not entirely sure how durable those weird Ethernet ports are, but they certainly exist.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by foldr »

slantyyz wrote: post #728
foldr wrote: post #717

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>I want to be able to have a finger on a physical button that doesn't detect any touch movements when dragging something. But dragging works exactly the same as it does when you have a physical button. You press down with one finger and make the dragging motion with another. You can click and drag with a single finger if you want to (as I've just discovered - never occurred to me to do it that way), but you don't hav…

I have always found strange things to happen when my held down finger (on the "virtual button") moves too much or changes pressure - on both Windows and Mac. That's just one more thing to think about in the back of my head. I especially hate the click and drag with a single finger, especially if I have multiple external monitors connected. Personally, I prefer that a physical button only has two states (on/off), and…

>I have always found strange things to happen when my held down finger (on the "virtual button") moves too much

All that happens is that the item you're dragging makes a corresponding movement.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by slantyyz »

foldr wrote: post #796
__david__ wrote: post #768

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You have to turn off "Tap to click" in the touchpad preferences. I can't remember if it is on by default or not, but it's the one thing I can't deal with. Any sort of accidental brush acts like a click and that's annoying, which sounds like what you are complaining about.

It's not on by default, which is what puzzles me about slantyyz's comments. I can't imagine anyone finding clicking and dragging more difficult on a macbook than on another laptop.

I usually turn them off.

I find clicking and dragging more difficult on laptops without physical buttons (Macbook and Windows) than laptops with physical trackpad buttons. YMMV

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by slantyyz »

foldr wrote: post #798
slantyyz wrote: post #728

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I have always found strange things to happen when my held down finger (on the "virtual button") moves too much or changes pressure - on both Windows and Mac. That's just one more thing to think about in the back of my head. I especially hate the click and drag with a single finger, especially if I have multiple external monitors connected. Personally, I prefer that a physical button only has two states (on/off), and…

>I have always found strange things to happen when my held down finger (on the "virtual button") moves too much All that happens is that the item you're dragging makes a corresponding movement.

Yes, but when you're trying to position something precisely, that's a problem. This doesn't happen when you have a physical button that only has an on/off state.

Keep in mind, I hate trackpads because I'm generally clumsy with them. That's just how I am. I get that it's not an issue for other people who have better hand-eye coordination.

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