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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by kalleboo »

Fnoord wrote: post #526
bartread wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> USB-C is baffling. Suppose you buy into the dream of one cable type for everything. I may be mistaken but I think that was the original USB dream as well. It's been a source of immense irritation to me at times over the years to find that I don't have quite the right mini/micro/whatever[1] USB cable to hand to connect whatever device I happen to have with me. USB-C just adds to what is already a mess of a situation…

Mini USB? I haven't seen new devices with that since like 2004. All phones moved towards Micro USB USB-A. The amount of devices I have which simply have Micro USB USB-A is staggering and almost always are the cables compatible with each other. My main issue with Micro USB is that some of the endpoints on _devices_ are badly soldered, leading to the port coming out. Such occurred on the Nokia N900. I rather have my ca…

I bought a 4K Action cam last year and a dashcam this year that both used mini-USB. I've also seen a guy making some open hardware to adapt some retro something or other being proud of picking mini instead of micro since it's "less fragile"

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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bayareanative wrote: post #612
webbrahmin wrote: post #607

I used to love my mac book pro. Sadly, it is not the same device which it used to be. The quest to make it thinner has actually made it a substandard machine. I feel Apple has lost a lot of developer love and brand capital since Jobs. I am hoping things would improve on the product front. Not all devs live in the US. For devs in developing countries, a mac book pro is a serious investment. We want a machine which is…

Everyone should watch the Louis Rossmann channel before lionizing, much less even saying anything good about modern MBP's they don't seem to understand what's been lost and what sucks. It's not been a long-lasting product for at least 5 years: - the batteries are glued in, making them very difficult to change - there's no locking slot - GPU goes out - the unencapsulated (motherboard) is very susceptible to any humidi…

>Denied data recovery when it’s possible

This one hits close to home.

I brought in my phone for a warranty exchange when the charging port was damaged. Phone at 7% without the ability to charge, I was told emailing photos to myself was the only option and was prodded to use the cloud storage in the future.

It’s unfortunate I wasn’t in the position to leave without a new phone. Years of photos were lost that day due to this lack of option and my own failure to back up locally.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

oliveshell wrote: post #656
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #655

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What dongle epidemic? A USB-C version of every important cord or connector has existed for _years_. Anyone who still has dongles is choosing them.

If I want to get 10 GB of RAW photos onto my 2013 MacBook Pro, I just pop the SD card out of the camera and into the laptop. Transfer is done in about a minute or two. No SD card reader means the new MBP just couldn’t do this without dongles, full stop. That’s a step backwards.

First, that's not a dongle, that's an SD card reader. A dongle would adapt a USB-A reader's plug to a USB-C plug.

Second, this is a step forward. Previously, people who didn't need to carry around SD card readers had to, in the form of bulkier laptops with smaller batteries. Now, only folks who need readers have to carry them around. That's a win.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by ode »

bayareanative wrote: post #612
webbrahmin wrote: post #607

I used to love my mac book pro. Sadly, it is not the same device which it used to be. The quest to make it thinner has actually made it a substandard machine. I feel Apple has lost a lot of developer love and brand capital since Jobs. I am hoping things would improve on the product front. Not all devs live in the US. For devs in developing countries, a mac book pro is a serious investment. We want a machine which is…

Everyone should watch the Louis Rossmann channel before lionizing, much less even saying anything good about modern MBP's they don't seem to understand what's been lost and what sucks. It's not been a long-lasting product for at least 5 years: - the batteries are glued in, making them very difficult to change - there's no locking slot - GPU goes out - the unencapsulated (motherboard) is very susceptible to any humidi…

Can you explain why the T490 is a regression? Thanks

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by clubm8 »

m12k wrote: post #605

I feel like the Apple we've seen since Jobs died is exactly what I would have expected if someone let the designers run the show without a strong product manager to reign them in: Gorgeous and mostly user-friendly products, but slightly too caught up in their own cleverness instead of the actual needs of real users. I hope there's a chance to rectify that now - though I fear it won't happen until someone more visiona…

Operations focused could be good. Some of the older iPhones are better IMHO. Small enough to use 1 handed, headphone port, battery could be improved while keeping form factor.

An operations person would see that as a market that will migrate to Android if the need is not met.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by app-pole »

m12k wrote: post #605

I feel like the Apple we've seen since Jobs died is exactly what I would have expected if someone let the designers run the show without a strong product manager to reign them in: Gorgeous and mostly user-friendly products, but slightly too caught up in their own cleverness instead of the actual needs of real users. I hope there's a chance to rectify that now - though I fear it won't happen until someone more visiona…

Apple has very skilled engineers, makes great strides in security, and I'm impressed by their hardware skills.

However, UX is their weakness. I don't know why we keep pretending that UX is Apple's strength. Have you used their window manager? Have you used their workspace implementation? Clearly they haven't used it themselves. Everything about the Mac UI is geared toward just having a pile of windows in one workspace.

Their window switcher by default requires switching between applications then switching between the windows of that application. Why?

Rearranging the contents of workspaces is a complicated dance of swipes and drags and other mouse-heavy movements. On a decent window manager, this can all be done with keyboard shortcuts.

They neglect power-users. They neglect usability for those with limited range of motion.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by bgeeek »

Despegar wrote: post #44
onion2k wrote: post #16

Nothing in this post says Ive's new company will only work with Apple. Maybe he'll land Dell as a client..

If Apple is his client he's probably not going to take any clients that competes with them.

That's an interesting thought. I guess that could hold true if he had clauses in his contract or didn't want to affect his bazillion shares. Other than that, I find it interesting because it doesn't seem to affect other designers. Architecture springs to mind.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by bawana »

too bad the 'designers' are stuck on static endpoints like appearance. Functional design is ignored. How many gestures am I supposed to remember? iOS13 is crazy with multiple 'spaces'. Why is no one implementing auditory input? I would like to say 'switch to workspace 1' and have it do that, or 'minimize', or 'next tab', etc.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by slantyyz »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #664
oliveshell wrote: post #656

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I want to get 10 GB of RAW photos onto my 2013 MacBook Pro, I just pop the SD card out of the camera and into the laptop. Transfer is done in about a minute or two. No SD card reader means the new MBP just couldn’t do this without dongles, full stop. That’s a step backwards.

First, that's not a dongle, that's an SD card reader. A dongle would adapt a USB-A reader's plug to a USB-C plug. Second, this is a step forward. Previously, people who didn't need to carry around SD card readers had to, in the form of bulkier laptops with smaller batteries. Now, only folks who need readers have to carry them around. That's a win.

It's not unreasonable to call an SD card reader a dongle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongle#Other

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