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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by sprafa »

filoleg wrote: post #169
threeseed wrote: post #156

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USB-C is infinitely better than Magsafe. You can use any charger, use battery packs and any third party cable which means far more reliability and quality.

Can confirm, it has been great. No more running around the office trying to find another macbook user when I accidentally leave my charger at home. I just easily roll up to anyone using a newer Lenovo laptop (that charges with USB-C) and use their charger. Ironically, it happens more often than not the other way around. Anecdote incoming. When I had to use a Lenovo laptop last month for a week as my on-call machine,…

Controversial opinion: Microsoft is making better hardware design decisions and better hardware design overall than Apple atm.

It’s the software which continues to be the issue for me.

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Post by CountSessine »

philjohn wrote: post #141
CountSessine wrote: post #18

I haven’t forgiven this guy for the latest “thin at any cost” 4th gen MacBook Pro we’ve had since 2016. He ruined the best programer’s laptop on the market. Maybe with him and his ego gone, they can fix the next generation and salvage the product line.

I keep seeing this, and I've got one and disagree. I quite like the new keyboard feel, I can type damned fast on it. The touchbar implementation in IntelliJ is nice, touch ID is great to login, I travel quite a bit so having something powerful but super light is a huge boon. It's probably not for everyone, but it felt like an upgrade over the 2015 model I was using before ... and sure, they jumped the gun on USB-C bu…

YMMV I guess, but I work as a programmer at a company where all the programmers carry these around and spend their whole days in emacs or tmux+vim. There are about a hundred of us in our local office. I haven’t found anyone who doesn’t hate this thing, and it all comes down to that stupid butterfly keyboard. We’re a company of super-efficient touch typists, and the 2015 MacBook pros with their scissor switches are coveted and traded.

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Post by sprafa »

asark wrote: post #64
jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

I'm not sure how much he actually did versus just being the spokesperson, but my recollection is that they pushed him to the front around the release of iOS7, the announcement for which was when all Apple's "bold" moves, in both software design and hardware form vs. function trade-offs, started making me do quizzical-german-shephard.jpg several times at each product reveal event. I'm hoping his influence was, in fact…

One can hope, but I’m sure his decisions were not based off design quirkiness entirely. Apple must have a department that shows people want thinner and thinner laptops and that’s what they aim for. Right?

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Post by vlunkr »

mstade wrote: post #94
jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

It’d be interesting to see the results of a survey on this I think, I and I know many of my peers are of the exact opposite opinion. I like the move to usb-c, I like the new keyboard, I don’t mind (but also don’t really use) the Touch Bar but I can’t live without Touch ID at this point. The big trackpad is magical to me, and the thickness and weight of the 13” is just right. I have an older MBP as well, 2013 maybe, a…

That's funny, because nearly all the Apple fans I know (myself included) are extremely jaded with their laptops since the touchbar model came out. Throwing out the ports and making the keyboard awful in favor of becoming thinner doesn't exactly read as a "Pro" product to me.

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Post by sprafa »

kylec wrote: post #65
empath75 wrote: post #60

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I would guess he is going to continue to be in charge of design for their flagship products for the foreseeable future.

No way, he's done, the part about him "consulting" is just a way to reassure the public that the split was amicable.

That seems radical. You really think Ive is going? He’s been there for decades.

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Post by mruniverse »

asciimov wrote: post #180
interlocutor wrote: post #152

Apple used to be known for their amazing designs. That was when Steve was running the company. Since his death Apple has been in a free fall in the design space. Most of the comments here seem to be about their awful hardware design. Yes, the thin macbook is not very usable, and the Homepod which is shaped like an amorphous blob is uglier than any Bose speaker. But what about their software? Their UI design is super…

The problem is Jony Ive ran out of Dieter Rams designs to borrow from.

At least he borrowed some nice designs. For me, the iphone 4 was a great design.

The hockey puck mouse was horrible though. Was that an Ive design?

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Post by steve19 »

amelius wrote: post #124
liamcardenas wrote: post #116

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Well they aren’t losing 100% of him since they are still able to retain his services. If this price movement was due to his departure it would indicate he has an even higher valuation.

But he can work for the competition now as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of no compete agreement (along with compensation)

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Post by sprafa »

noir_lord wrote: post #165
HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #128

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As a person with knowledge of machining and who is rather technical, the "grater" design is honestly pretty appealing to me- I wish the New Pro's had filters, but that design looks cool . It does, at least, look better than the last PC I built.

I admire the work it took to build it but not the design. I have a Coolermaster H500 (I wanted high air flow with filters as I have ambulatory fur producers (cats)), it’s a bit too RGB for me but other than that very very functional and was a dream to build inside. Against that the Mac Pro doesn’t fair well on cost to function at all.

The Mac Pro makes sense in a media production environment for very specific reasons. I work in filmmaking and motion design and you would sell your mother for that machine.

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Post by darpa_escapee »

Bud wrote: post #182
asark wrote: post #135

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I think they really needed a transition design for 3-4 years that included USB-C but still had the "legacy" ports—in quotes because when they announced the C-only model I hadn't even seen a USB-C port or cable in real life yet. USB-A is nowhere near being on the way out yet. Especially when their own damn mobile devices still come with A cables. We're way into their attempt to push everything to USB-C but I went to T…

Stop expecting Target to carry a 2019-appropriate selection of tech. Just go to monoprice.com.

Best Buy’s USB-C offerings are lacking and almost entirely Apple related.

What other stores will I have to avoid if I buy a MacBook in 2019?

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