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Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by ghostly_s »

kylec wrote: post #65
empath75 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would guess he is going to continue to be in charge of design for their flagship products for the foreseeable future.

No way, he's done, the part about him "consulting" is just a way to reassure the public that the split was amicable.

Yep. They had already been giving him tremendous leeway to work on side projects outside Apple for several years, they certainly would have allowed him to establish a formal studio for this side-business stuff if that's all it was. Clearly this is about no loner seeing eye-to-eye on his decisions in the expanded c-suite role that encompassed UI design etc.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by cududa »

fnord77 wrote: post #108
valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

given their recent focus on being a services/media company, it wouldn't surprise me if they moved out of hardware entirely at some point in the future.

I bet you $100 that’s wrong

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

skyyler wrote: post #101
doomlaser wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My next Mac after my 2013 MacBook Pro finally kicks it will probably be a 2014-2015 MacBook Pro if I can find one. I was issued a brand new MacBook Pro for work and I hate it. Hate the Touch Bar and keyboard and only liked using it docked to a keyboard and external displays.

I'll sell you my currently unused 2015 MacBook Pro if you want it.

Serious? What version of OS X is it running, and how much do you want?

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by amelius »

liamcardenas wrote: post #116
dharmon wrote: post #29

I, even (especially?) as a long-time Apple fanboy, am looking forward to some fresh design blood in the Apple ecosystem. AAPL is down about 1%. So I guess the market values Ive at around $9B? :P

Well they aren’t losing 100% of him since they are still able to retain his services. If this price movement was due to his departure it would indicate he has an even higher valuation.

But he can work for the competition now as well.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by toxik »

fnord77 wrote: post #108
valine wrote: post #31

With the iPhone X Apple put serious R&D into a display that folds back on itself for the sole reason that a phone is more ascetically pleasing when the boarders are symmetrical. Even after a year and a half every phone except the iPhone has an asymmetrical chin. Will Apple still be able to make decisions like that without Ive in a leadership position? For Apple's sake I really hope so.

given their recent focus on being a services/media company, it wouldn't surprise me if they moved out of hardware entirely at some point in the future.

This is mistaken, Apple sells devices and the software comes with; it’s a key selling point. Yes they expanded their services sector, because product is getting hard to push — but it will always be the core business.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by doomlaser »

skyyler wrote: post #101
doomlaser wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My next Mac after my 2013 MacBook Pro finally kicks it will probably be a 2014-2015 MacBook Pro if I can find one. I was issued a brand new MacBook Pro for work and I hate it. Hate the Touch Bar and keyboard and only liked using it docked to a keyboard and external displays.

I'll sell you my currently unused 2015 MacBook Pro if you want it.

Thanks, but my 2013 machine is still chugging along well. I replaced the screen a few months back and it still feels great.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by esolyt »

mstade wrote: post #94
jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

It’d be interesting to see the results of a survey on this I think, I and I know many of my peers are of the exact opposite opinion. I like the move to usb-c, I like the new keyboard, I don’t mind (but also don’t really use) the Touch Bar but I can’t live without Touch ID at this point. The big trackpad is magical to me, and the thickness and weight of the 13” is just right. I have an older MBP as well, 2013 maybe, a…

The new Macbook Air actually has TouchID without the touch bar.

I actually mind the touch bar, because I like having actual keys for brightness adjusment, keyboard backlight, and volume.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

behnamoh wrote: post #76
jedberg wrote: post #42

Given his penchant for thinness over function, I hope this means we can have a thicker pro laptop again, with all the ports back and a more robust keyboard.

And talk about the new $6000 Mac Pro which got memed a lot because of its astounding similarity to a grater. Although, I know this is not going to ruin Ive's legacy cause he's also been responsible for some great designs like iPhone 4 and aluminum MBP. update: I know it was designed like that due to air flow considerations. I just pointed out the fact that it seems the design team didn't get input from others, who IM…

As a person with knowledge of machining and who is rather technical, the "grater" design is honestly pretty appealing to me- I wish the New Pro's had filters, but that design looks cool.

It does, at least, look better than the last PC I built.

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by musicale »

pier25 wrote: post #89

His work is great aesthetically but I'm guessing there has been some conflict at Apple for him to leave. I wouldn't be surprised if all the latest Apple problems originated from engineering constraints imposed by his decisions. From the trashcan Mac Pro to the butterfly keyboard.

This is an interesting hypothesis. It is reminiscent of Steve Jobs' insistence on his carved wood Apple /// design (which the motherboard didn't fit into) or that the original Macintosh must not have a fan (because computers with fans were junk.)

Both designs contributed to reliability problems (multiple boards/ribbon cable/flexing/loose DRAM chips on the Apple ///, failed analog boards on the Mac.)

Re: Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client

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Post by m463 »

mrkstu wrote: post #70

Hopefully this signals the end of the designers tyranny at Apple. While physical design has been of paramount importance in Apple's rise to the top, it has been more and more detrimental as Jony and his group wandered into worshipping at the altar of luxury and Platonic idealism. When combined with /not/ ignoring other than luxury market segments and usability that was fine. But when Jony's star was completely ascend…

> Hopefully this signals the end of the designers tyranny at Apple.

Wait, how do you know it doesn't mean...

- all toasters will be as thin as a slice of bread

- refrigerators will now open and close like a laptop

- washers and dryers will now be wireless (compatibility dongles for water and lint will be available)

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