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I once heard it said that employee overtime was like morphine for employers, because it masks the pain of organizational dysfunction. It's important to let your employer feel that pain so that they can become aware of what is wrong and fix it.
It's important to let your employer feel that pain Unless you're hourly.
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"Masculinity isn't an unchangeable trait though." I am masculine. Can't change it unless I take hormones. I can wear a dress but that doesn't change anything.
Please look up the definition of masculinity. It has everything to do with culture, it is not something you are 100% born with. Do you have a beard? If no, then in some cultures you wouldn't be very masculine. Ergo, in those cultures you are not in fact masculine.
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I think the problem is there is only a focus on toxic masculinity and men see it everywhere. It stands to reason there can be just as much toxic femininity, but you don't hear about that ever... or not much talk about positive masculinity but surely that exists also
Connecting bad traits with the same term as unchangeable traits makes no sense to. I am male and therefore have masculinity. Why connect demanding overtime to masculinity? It's super unspecific and not helpful. And no way you could ever use the word "toxic femininity" or "toxic blackness". People would go crazy,.
It turns out, when you use those terms to describe traits, rather than as accusations of assholery or inherent awfulness, you can actually have a conversation, rather than shouting defensively at each other. I think it might be because as used in academic discourse, that's what they are: descriptions of traits.
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What does this attitude have to do with being male? They have children also. A woman could just as easily have this viewpoint and your anecdotal story doesn't provide any evidence to the contrary. Calling this toxic masculinity isn't just incorrect, it shows that you have a problem with masculinity and are trying to attribute all kinds of negative actions to it.
It doesn't have much to do with being male- that's the point! It has to do with the roles men are expected to play in society, and how "being a man" is culturally defined. Of course men have children too! Again, that's the point- to a significant degree, the "normal" family- where culture defines what's "normal"- consists of a man who works and focuses on his career, and a woman who takes care of the kids. So when th…
Wouldn't it be more manly behaviour to stand up for yourself, and go home on time? It surely wouldn't be very masculine to sacrifice time with your family just because you get a bit of passive-aggressiveness from middle management.
I'd say the concept of what is and isn't masculinity is almost too nebulous to assign it good or bad qualities.
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> How do you implement change? Someone big and local has to step in, let the the workers leave on time yet kick everyone’s butt on the market. Then everyone will start copying the practices.
Relying on cargo culting is probably not sustainable long term. Education and collective action are better tools IMO.
What's described here is how most art movements and industrial revolutions where born.
In a place I worked, if someone left at 5:30 pm, the CTO used to joke "half day today?", even though the person came in at 9 am. In many places I worked in the US, it is somewhat of a badge of honor to spend long hours at work (how many of those are actually productive, is a different story). And these aren't even startups. This can't continue - an entire generation of people have been brainwashed that hard work = go…
> IMHO, the only reasons to work long hours are - real emergencies (like the kind doctors and cops deal with, not the kind when some photo sharing app goes down for 15 mins) Even that doesn't make tech look great. Hours are bad for most doctors, but it seems like emergency medicine handles it a lot better. Doing some brief reading it looks like doctors can work 40 hours a week or under in the ER if they want to, and…
When he emerged two hours later, clinging to his IV pole, we were grateful for the manpower.
That's not counting all of our "unofficial hours". You officially work, whatever, 9-6. You're packed with patients for those hours, though, with almost no time to chart, so you go home and chart ... and on a daily basis at home, you're catching texts from colleagues for informal consults and requests to see patients the next day. Your "off" hours aren't off - and if you have to take call, and end up driving back to the hospital...
EM "handles it better" (a phrase I'm loathe to use) because they have legit shift work, with no continuity. No one calls them for a consult; they're not responsible for anyone after they leave because all their patients are short-stay, they don't have to see "every patient on X roster," they just have to manage their ER while they're in it. They manage shifts because of features more-or-less specific to their specialty. A handful of other specialties share those features, and manage to do the same. But not most.
Hell, I chose to pursue my specialty specifically because it lacks emergencies. I never wanted to wake up in the middle of the night post-residency; no one pays you enough for those hours (you're generally not paid for those hours.)
> In a place I worked, if someone left at 5:30 pm, the CTO used to joke "half day today?", even though the person came in at 9 am. This shit is toxic masculinity in action – the part that affects men. Women protest this kind of thing because if they have children they need to go home to, then they are unable to compete on hours with men who can stay late and rely on their wives. But men deserve time with their famili…
And the boss, who looks good because his team works so hard.
The real story here is the issue of incentive structure and coordination games. If one company sends their workers home early, they risk being outcompeted by another that keeps workers late. Companies could attempt to coordinate in order to mandate sending people home early, but then a defector stands to profit immensely.
Even if we were to pass laws mandating shorter work days, companies would find ways around it using contracts or temporary workers.
You might point out that some companies do offer a lot of flexibility and relaxed hours. These companies can do this because their productivity isn't strictly tied to hours worked. Other companies don't have that luxury, however, and the pressure to work overtime will always be there.
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> how do leaders convince people that change can be good? Showing the idea to a broad audience on tv is actually one way to do this. (although there are ways this can backfire)
This show is not seeking to do this. Note this part of the article which barely gets a mention: "In the novel, the decision to work overtime leads to her downfall: She becomes addicted to work, ends up in the hospital and loses a new beau, who has a decidedly more relaxed attitude toward his own job. But on the TV show, which began airing in April, Ms. Higashiyama is destined for a happier fate, said the producers" T…
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This show is not seeking to do this. Note this part of the article which barely gets a mention: "In the novel, the decision to work overtime leads to her downfall: She becomes addicted to work, ends up in the hospital and loses a new beau, who has a decidedly more relaxed attitude toward his own job. But on the TV show, which began airing in April, Ms. Higashiyama is destined for a happier fate, said the producers" T…
What a shake that the producer twisted the author's idea like this.
One question i am asking repeatedly is what is exactly the work they do for 5 extended hours? i have seen people barely work 4 out of 8 hours and being super productive!