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Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by xenospn »

heavenlyhash wrote: post #28
lucideer wrote: post #4

This is a very oddly positioned story. The Nissan Leaf "lift[ed] Norway's electric car sales to record market share" before Tesla's Model 3 surpassed the Leaf in sales. The article seems to be making out that Tesla have been the cause of the record EV sales in Norway. In actuality, Tesla have recently become the most popular EV there, but EV sales were record-breaking before that.

Oslo resident here. Indeed. Look also to: - the near-universality of charger stations on streets, both in residential and commercial districts; - the huge tax subsidies for buying and owning electric vehicles; - the low cost of (clean, incidentally) electricity (I believe most of the charger posts in the city are free , though I should note I don't drive myself); - the substantial tarrifs and fees for poluting vehicl…

It's also important to point out that the cost of a cup of coffee in Oslo is more than most breakfasts in the US.

Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by xenospn »

zaroth wrote: post #12
RankingMember wrote: post #6

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Noise makers are being added by law lots of places for good reason, but that's a bit off-topic isn't it?

It’s somewhat on topic as it reduces the desirability of an EV doesn’t it? IMO, they should require either a noise maker, or a sufficiently advanced pedestrian collision avoidance safety system. I would think that at the speed and in the scenarios a noise maker would help, a pedestrian safety system should be highly effective.

I can't tell you how many times someone backed up out of their hidden driveway and almost hit my dog, who is small and can be easily missed by both collision detection systems and backup cameras. If the car was completely silent these incidents would have probably ended differently.

Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by dang »

throwayEngineer wrote: post #42
navigatesol wrote: post #38

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Yes, experts who have driven many cars, from many manufacturers at many price points over many years. Or you can go with the anonymous HackerNews account.

Do you think that person is a Tesla Marketing account? They also posted about spacex

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Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by Para2016 »

breakyerself wrote: post #48
Para2016 wrote: post #45

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Actually yes, another country should "lead" the transition. It's a global issue. Doing a good thing for your own population while continuing to export fossil fuel is hypocritical.

I'm guessing you're not a fan of harm reduction programs.

Just not a big fan of hypocrites. I see it as similar to a country that preaches peace and diplomacy while manufacturing weapons and selling to beligerants.

Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by gingabriska »

xiphias2 wrote: post #37
bagacrap wrote: post #34

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Isn't the country's enormous wealth largely due to the sale of fossil fuels? Tax incentives for EV usage are great, but it's only possible because of the rest of the world's dependence on oil. It's really hard to take any lesson or even comfort from a story like this. It's not possible for everyone to offshore their carbon footprint.

Would it be better if Norway would not lead the transition to sustainability? They understand how bad it is (also their oil reserves are not as great as before), and at least trying to take action before it's too late.

If Norway wants to strive for sustainability they should be installing power plants in India and offering EVs and free charging ports there. In coming days, India is going to surpass all countries when it comes to net pollution.

I don't know why these rich countries never do anything to improve quality of life on whole planet.

Pollution or climate change won't respect borders, so why should they?

Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by xiphias2 »

gingabriska wrote: post #55
xiphias2 wrote: post #37

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Would it be better if Norway would not lead the transition to sustainability? They understand how bad it is (also their oil reserves are not as great as before), and at least trying to take action before it's too late.

If Norway wants to strive for sustainability they should be installing power plants in India and offering EVs and free charging ports there. In coming days, India is going to surpass all countries when it comes to net pollution. I don't know why these rich countries never do anything to improve quality of life on whole planet. Pollution or climate change won't respect borders, so why should they?

The money you are talking about would easily bankrupt Norway. What a government can do is to create tax incentives for EVs and tax gasoline cars, as laws are free. Norwegian government is not able to change the Indian tax code.

What I see as important is anything that moves the price of EVs down and utility up. Norway is helping EV battery research a lot (although China still leads).

Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by jkim1258 »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #9
zaroth wrote: post #7

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Tesla is the cause of the current record sales of EVs in Norway, per TFA; > In 2018, Norway’s fully electric car sales rose to a record 31.2 percent market share from 20.8 percent in 2017, far ahead of any other nation, and buyers had to wait as producers struggled to keep up with demand. > The surge of electric cars to a 58.4 percent market share in March came as Tesla ramped up delivery of its mid-sized Model 3...…

Tesla performs this stunt constantly. What they do is they don't deliver any cars for months at a time, whether because they can't or choose not to I don't know. Then they dump all the backorders on some small nation all at once and put out a press release about how they are the best-selling car in that place because they recognized a year of sales in a single month.

Could it also be a simple result of the cars coming in a giant ship all at once? I'm not sure how many cars fit in one of those ships, but I'd guess quite a few..

Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by w8vY7ER »

ryanlol wrote: post #44
w8vY7ER wrote: post #36

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Ah, yes, experts.

Substitute “experts” with “anyone who has sat in a high end Audi, BMW or Mercedes” Teslas are fun to drive but awful to sit in.

I've been siting in one for the past 18 months and 16,000 miles. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that you're completely wrong here!

Re: Tesla boom lifts Norway's electric car sales to record market share

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Post by ryanlol »

w8vY7ER wrote: post #58
ryanlol wrote: post #44

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Substitute “experts” with “anyone who has sat in a high end Audi, BMW or Mercedes” Teslas are fun to drive but awful to sit in.

I've been siting in one for the past 18 months and 16,000 miles. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that you're completely wrong here!

Did you compare it to a similarly priced BMW or Mercedes?

I’ve spent a plenty of time in all of them, the Tesla interior feels more like a Toyota than the German manufacturers.

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