Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

Post by zrobotics » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 2:00 PM UTC

ModernMech wrote: post #75

red_admiral wrote: post #33

I tried opera a while back, and while it's fast and looks good, it has a new tab page with "recommended" sites that you can't turn off - I tried, but it's protected by DRM (opera will refuse to start if the file doesn't have a valid digital signature). So if I'm going to switch browsers because of privacy/advertising concerns, it's not going to be Opera.

The new tab page has a list of bookmarks you can customize. It starts off with some "recommeded" sites in there, but you can just remove them once and they never come back. The only thing you can't remove from the new tab page is the Google search bar, which never really bothered me. Either way, it seems like you're implying that Opera will populate the new tab page with sites it chooses, but that's just not the case…

Post by tyingq » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 2:10 PM UTC

Isinlor wrote: post #79

user17843 wrote: post #66

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Maybe think about it in a different way. Right now, there is a kill-switch within googles primary product that could essentially destroy their business model. This is not about google wanting to harm the current power users. It is probably the idea that someone could come along and destroy their business. If such an extensions goes mainstream that could seriously harm them. They may also want to get rid of paying Adb…

ABP is compatible with the new API and will not be affected. See: https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/declarativeNetReques... This is API that ABP can use. But with the new API the rules list will be limited to 30 000 rules vs. for example 42 000 EasyList is using, and an update to the rules will require a full update of the plugin. See also comments from gorhill: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/iss…

Post by throwaway2048 » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 2:24 PM UTC

user17843 wrote: post #84

Isinlor wrote: post #79

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ABP is compatible with the new API and will not be affected. See: https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/declarativeNetReques... This is API that ABP can use. But with the new API the rules list will be limited to 30 000 rules vs. for example 42 000 EasyList is using, and an update to the rules will require a full update of the plugin. See also comments from gorhill: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/iss…

ABP released a statement to german news site golem.de, saying that they "prepare for the worst case". This means they anticipate Google to target the Acceptable Ads program. Originally I thought 30,000 rules wouldn't be enough to cover things, but according to this research, only a couple hundred rules are enough to block >90% of the ads: https://brave.com/the-mounting-cost-of-stale-ad-blocking-rul... So maybe there'…

Post by ben_jones » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 3:17 PM UTC

el_programmador wrote: post #59

rndgermandude wrote: post #42

The problem at this point isn't whether chrome will disable it... It can be added back, probably fairly easily as google intents to keep it around for "enterprise" anyway, so it's probably just gonna end up changing/removing one if-statement. If not, then the code already exists and has to be merged back in. The problem is distribution of the actual extensions, as Vivaldi kinda pointed out, as the other browsers most…

My gut feeling is that Google won't pull this stunt with chrome, this is some kind of scare mongering or a PR tactic, I dunno. It doesn't make a logical sense because if they are banning the ad-blockers, it means they accept that chrome is largely used by power users who can install these blockers (otherwise, what's the need?). But they should realize that a power user who installs an addon can just as easily move to…

Post by close04 » Sun, Jun 09, 2019, 3:29 PM UTC

bambax wrote: post #41

close04 wrote: post #19

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Except mobile browsers, arguably the most critical place where you need blocking to get any kind of reasonably decent experience (load times, viewable area, battery life, etc.). Extensions like uBlock target people who don't want to bother with editing hosts files and keeping them updated.

Firefox on Android supports extensions, including uBlockO, and it works perfectly. It can be set as the default browser and voilà, no more ads ever.