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Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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> A couple of million users (at max) are just not enough. Are you taking it as self-evident that Stadia will have more than a couple million users? > Also Stadia has a subscription basis. So did fiber.

Fiber is still serving customers. Not sure what you're referring to.

I believe he's referring to something like this: https://gizmodo.com/when-google-fiber-abandons-your-city-as-...

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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I think you are not alone in that opinion. It seems like a bad choice to say to consumers "You have to buy those games again to use with Stadia.".

What is the alternative?

You could import your Steam/Origin/Gog/etc library of stadia compatible games.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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What's the alternative, are you going to build your own cluster for such kind of things? As I said, for something your PC can manage, I don't see a need for such stuff. But for something more complex, it has interesting potential. The downside of course is that you can't just run it locally, unless you can match that computational power.

Probably just buy a PlayStation

Good luck running some distributed AI algorithm on it.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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> Offline Trips, Reader, Inbox, etc do not count. A couple of million users (at max) are just not enough. What if Stadia under-performs their financial expectations? What if it under-performs those expectations for 2-4 years? I'm not certain that Google will shut-down Stadia in that time-frame, but I'm absolutely not certain that it will also be running at that point. I'm extremely confident that Valve won't shut dow…

What if Google takes away enough revenue with Stadia? Then Valve may no be able to keep Steam up in the time frame.

But all games you bought from steam will still be yours to play. Stadia games will just stop working as soon as Google pulls the plug.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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I expect to pre-order the hardware, but I'll probably hold off on a subscription until I see the games and have a compelling reason to pay a monthly fee. I don't really mind the difference between 1080p and 4K, so buying the games standalone seems like a nice fit for me personally, with the subscription sitting as a nice "premium" / improve-what-you-have option.

I don't really see a compelling case for this for 1080p gaming. You can achieve that on very cheap hardware already. The Xbox One S is $200 right now.

Personally, I already have an Xbox One that I lug around with me when I travel. The most compelling aspects of this are it feeling a lot more mobile (since you only need a chromecast and a controller, or just the controller with your phone), and feeling a lot more future-proof since it's effectively just a thin client running on beefy hardware elsewhere, that I expect to be upgraded to meet current game demands over time.

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1080p games should be able to run on a low spec PC. Why not buying the actual game?

What modern game can run at 1080p/60fps on a low spec PC? What kinda of cost are we talking about when you say "low spec"?

Honestly? 4ish years of a stadia subscription will run any game released in that time period, and also the entire back catalog of PC gaming, minus some annoyingness around early 2000s games and permissions. My $500 PC runs VR at 1.7x supersampling with zero issues, and can 1080p60hz any game at all with zero trouble.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Honest question now, you say you're a casual gamer, do you have a pc with a video card? With a gigabit connection, updates are really a non-issue. I can't see why people with even moderate gaming rigs ($150 gpu) would bother with this service? Is 4k really that big of a deal?

I have a pretty beefy gaming PC that I almost never game on. 4K isn't a huge deal for me. Convenience is. I'm tired of updating my GPU drivers and experinece (5-10 minutes), then launching Steam, waiting for it to update and restart (2-3 minutes), then picking the game I want to play, waiting for it to update and install (5-10 minutes), then finally launch the game and have it spend more time connecting to servers be…

>I'm tired of updating my GPU drivers and experinece (5-10 minutes)

I never understood this complaint. You can be perfectly fine running GPU drivers from a year ago. You don't need to update them every day.

With Steam, it "updating" every time you run it seems to be a lie really, but I think most people who run Steam just leave it always on.

The games, I have 400 on Steam. Maybe 1-3 update per day on average, and there's lot's of overlap ie 90% of my library hasn't updated in a year, and 9% of the leftover updates maybe once a month.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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And the betting on when this product will be shut down by Google has already begun...right now 3 years is the choice with the most money behind it. Some fools are guessing Google may give this as much as 5 years. Given Google's abysmal history of supporting its software and hardware products, see e.g., the Nest fiasco from a few weeks ago, only a fool or someone with cash to waste would invest in a Google hardware de…

Google has a habit of getting bored of a service or, if it's not doing too well, just switching it off. Can you assure people that if they spend money on Stadia games, they are still going to have access to them in the coming years? I completely understand the question. I think there's a couple of things I would answer to that. One is our commitment to this business is extraordinary. If you look at the list of games,…

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Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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I’m in Australia, so precluding anything else, our terrible internet means this product is more or less dead in the water for me.

... Does Google not have any data centers in Australia? (Granted, it isn't a given that Stadia might run out of those DCs, but with Borg, I don't see why they couldn't.)

They have one in Sydney. Only European and North American countries were listed in the launch announcement. I'd expect Australia and Asian countries, where Google have data centers, to follow some time later.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Wait what, Baldur's Gate 3? And DOOM Eternal at 4K/60, they must be pretty confident about the latency... OK, I have to admit it's a pretty compelling alternative to upgrading my aging computer. I'll still wait for the reviews / Digital Foundry analysis, but I'm interested.

There's a GDC talk by id Software porting DOOM to Stadia [0]. The speaker says that in the latest demos, the difference is basically not perceptible. They had a setup with two computers, one running Stadia and the other locally, and most people couldn't tell them apart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdz4b5psrhE

Thanks for that video! It was really insightful.
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