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Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Meanwhile, infant circumcision is still perfectly legal.

And in Judaism you must circumcise in order to signify your acceptance of an ancient religious covenant. Without this acceptance the religion is castrated, eviscerated, made null. Which is of course the sole goal of its critics. There's also solid scientific evidence it contributes some health benefits, but we can and should ignore that.

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Meanwhile, infant circumcision is still perfectly legal.

And in Judaism you must circumcise in order to signify your acceptance of an ancient religious covenant. Without this acceptance the religion is castrated, eviscerated, made null. Which is of course the sole goal of its critics. There's also solid scientific evidence it contributes some health benefits, but we can and should ignore that.

This really isn’t the forum for a religious discussion, but I have to say I’ve never understood this part. If you disengage Judaism from ethnicity to be purely a religion then, assuming freedom of religion, shouldn’t it be down to the child to make that decision at some point when society deems them capable of making a decision on their own (typically 16)?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in Judaism you must circumcise in order to signify your acceptance of an ancient religious covenant. Without this acceptance the religion is castrated, eviscerated, made null. Which is of course the sole goal of its critics. There's also solid scientific evidence it contributes some health benefits, but we can and should ignore that.

I think it’s pretty disingenuous to suggest that not allowing foreskin amputation nullifies all of Judaism. Many Jewish people whose parents decided not to circumcise them grow up to have fulfilling spiritual and cultural lives. No one does a dick check when you walk into synagogue. There are many ways to maintain the symbolic importance of circumcision without resorting to unnecessary amputation, such as cutting a s…

Nearly all early Christians were required to sacrifice to the Roman emperor acknowledging His Divinity as God Emperor. They then received a chit called a Libellus that indicated they had sacrificed.

Only the Christians that did not have a libellus and refused to conform with the legal requirement to sacrifice were executed.

Most everyone said it's no big deal. You can acknowledge the God Emperor and still be a faithful Christian.

Those that disagreed are now considered to have been "Martyrs", those who died for their faith. But perhaps they were just delusional. What is the harm in sacrificing to the Emperor, acknowledging he is the True God? You can secretly believe in your heart of heart otherwise and there is no problem with that, most people say. It's perfectly fine to kill, to abuse, to do whatever you personally feel is ok. All will be fine. Just do it.

Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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post #8

Meanwhile, infant circumcision is still perfectly legal.

That’s really unrelated. I get that it seems analogous to you, but it’s weird to me that a cats claw is similar to a foreskin in your mind. Declawing is much more like cutting off the cats fingers

It's related to the extent that antisemitism is related to every post in the entire world in the minds of a huge number of people who rabidly foam at the mouth and drool over the possibility of a final and complete holocaust.

Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Meanwhile, infant circumcision is still perfectly legal.

All the problems in this world and you have to shitpost about this? Why don't you submit an article about circumcision and let it stand on it's own merits instead of hijacking an unrelated story.

Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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post #8

Meanwhile, infant circumcision is still perfectly legal.

That’s really unrelated. I get that it seems analogous to you, but it’s weird to me that a cats claw is similar to a foreskin in your mind. Declawing is much more like cutting off the cats fingers

They are both bodily mutilation of powerless non-consenting beings/individuals. I wouldn't call that unrelated.

Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Meanwhile, infant circumcision is still perfectly legal.

And in Judaism you must circumcise in order to signify your acceptance of an ancient religious covenant. Without this acceptance the religion is castrated, eviscerated, made null. Which is of course the sole goal of its critics. There's also solid scientific evidence it contributes some health benefits, but we can and should ignore that.

Why not wait until they're adults and they can consent to the procedure?

Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Not a cat owner, so actually curious: I have a friend cat who always scratches me, which is quite painful and leaves marks. Is there a way to trim the nails so this doesn't happen, or is the only solution to avoid the cat?

Couple of solutions:

1) Trim the nails like you said, that's not always easy to do depending on the cat. 2) Encourage the cat to use scratching posts more, using treats and catnip 3) Softpaws or similar. https://www.softpaws.com/

Re: Cat Declawing Is Banned by New York State Lawmakers

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Not a cat owner, so actually curious: I have a friend cat who always scratches me, which is quite painful and leaves marks. Is there a way to trim the nails so this doesn't happen, or is the only solution to avoid the cat?

Sure, just clip their claws using nail clippers. You can see how far down the claw the nail bed goes, so just avoid that and take the point off.

Having said that, unless you get them accustomed to the process as a kitten, you may end up suffering more than if you hadn’t attempted it in the first place.

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