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Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by kilo_bravo_3 »

canes123456 wrote: post #392
mindgam3 wrote: post #369

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This is Apple sensing weakness and dropping a bomb right on facebook’s doorstep. And they sidestep the anticompetitive angle by arguing that instant anonymous sign on is simply a better UX, which it is. Someone at Apple deserves a raise.

Lol, I doubt it. Apple is years late and sucks at doing the leg work of getting third parties to adopt its suck. Look at Apple Pay which was launched at the perfect time.

Practically any point-of-sale that supports NFC also supports Apple Pay. Adoption rates may vary by region but NFC penetration is very good where I live.

I have switched almost exclusively to Apple Pay, and frequent only one chain of gas station because they rolled out NFC at all of their pumps last year. After the introduction of chip readers gas pump mag stripe readers became the main vector for card skimming in my area and even with the security stickers all of the gas stations have been putting on their pumps I don't trust any mag reader anymore.

At locations that don't have an Apple Pay logo on their card readers, like my local movie theater, I have spied the NFC logo and given it a try and it works.

Except for Amazon, almost all of my online shopping is now done through Apple Pay. I have a shirt out for delivery today from a small retailer I had never heard of before that I purchased with one click and a fingerprint via Apple Pay.

It has not only changed how I buy things, but how I dress. Instead of my George Costanza wallet I only carry an ID and two cards in a slim front pocket wallet, relying on Apple Pay for almost everything and walking out of a store if they are cash-only or don't support chip/NFC.

Regardless of your chosen NFC platform, I recommend that everyone use it and shun points of sale that don't have it.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by basch »

rootusrootus wrote: post #510
basch wrote: post #363

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Is that through a keyboard? Can the browser pass what I type to 1pass?

Yep, works through the keyboard. Click on the login or password field, then it gives you a key icon to get into 1Password, where you are prompted to generate a password and provide a username. Then you tell it to autofill that into the form. A little clunky but effective.

But what you cant do, (because these are all work arounds to a proper "default password manager") is have 1pass capture what you typed into a page.

Apple gives preference to Keychain and gives it special ability. Which is what MSFT got in trouble for with IE embedded into windows.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by basch »

damnyou wrote: post #427
basch wrote: post #353

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Are you their customer? Do you buy their products? If not, then no you're not important. Their business model is to serve their paying customers.

Many people use devices from several ecosystems.

I have an android and iphone but realistically how many people have one of each phone?

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by damnyou »

basch wrote: post #513
damnyou wrote: post #427

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Many people use devices from several ecosystems.

I have an android and iphone but realistically how many people have one of each phone?

People don't use Windows and iPhone at the same time?

Or Mac and Android?

or Android and iPad?

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by tinus_hn »

sturgill wrote: post #490
tinus_hn wrote: post #451

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You can’t, that’s the idea. What do you need it for?

Because thousands of people already have an account tied to a specific email and are going to click the Apple button and get really mad when we can’t log them in.

So then you ask them for their email address and password once and link the accounts together?

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by oarsinsync »

nprateem wrote: post #488
oarsinsync wrote: post #485

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user+detail@domain.com user@domain.com The 'detail' is optional, and doesn't infer any privacy. It's kind of like if you get mail delivered to: nprateem, office 2, university of ycombinator and instead they only store: nprateem, university of ycombinator Odds are, mail will still be delivered to you, but it might not come to office 2, and might come to office 1 instead. It's not what you wanted, but there's absolutel…

If you decide you no longer want to receive email from user+detail@domain.com it's easy to set up a blacklist filter. If they circumvent that and email you at user@domain.com you've lost that alias and easy way of blacklisting them. And presumably if someone had wanted to be contacted at user@domain.com they would have provided that email in the first place. So I don't think your analogy holds.

Fair, the analogy doesn't hold onto the functions provided, but RFC 5233 is very clear that the user+detail separation does not provide any privacy protections, nor can it.

The 'user' part is still public information, as is what it's used for. There should be no expectation of privacy for information being used per specification design.

The usability trade-off is a shame, but the solution was half-baked at best, and is primarily useful when combined with privacy-sacrificing public email providers. When you have greater control of your email, distinct 'user' parts can be used, which does provide the privacy aspect desired.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by oneluv1464 »

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Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by la_barba »

saltminer wrote: post #262
la_barba wrote: post #54

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But in return for that, the services that choose to employ this will get a soft guarantee that the person signing up is unique/real. Its a way to get real-name/real-id with some amount of privacy.

Apple IDs cannot guarantee a real or unique user - users can have multiple accounts (some users will create a second account by mistake, others have a separate work account, etc), users can share accounts (especially ones tied to generic email addresses), and there are people selling app store reviews, so some bad actors definitely have a lot of accounts.

Thanks for your comment. I used the word soft guarantee, which is meant to encapsulate those caveats. Maybe I should have used a better term since I guess people were confused as to what it meant.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by mindgam3 »

saagarjha wrote: post #476
mindgam3 wrote: post #233

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I highly recommend buying a 2015 Macbook Pro, if you can find someone willing to part with theirs. Apple laptop hardware started going off the rails after they shipped that one with touch bar + keyboard shenanigans.

I have a Early 2015 MacBook Pro. I would not recommend it as a new laptop unless you're getting a significant discount on it, since it's starting to get old.

I agree it's not a perfect solution, and mine is starting to get old as well, but so far it's things that are replaceable (i.e. battery). And I still vastly prefer it to a 2018 MBP I had for a while and then sold at a heavy discount due to keyboard/touchbar/no Esc key/USB-C dongle hell. But if you don't care about any of that and just want the fastest CPU, it's not the best choice.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by dzhiurgis »

kilo_bravo_3 wrote: post #511
canes123456 wrote: post #392

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Lol, I doubt it. Apple is years late and sucks at doing the leg work of getting third parties to adopt its suck. Look at Apple Pay which was launched at the perfect time.

Practically any point-of-sale that supports NFC also supports Apple Pay. Adoption rates may vary by region but NFC penetration is very good where I live. I have switched almost exclusively to Apple Pay, and frequent only one chain of gas station because they rolled out NFC at all of their pumps last year. After the introduction of chip readers gas pump mag stripe readers became the main vector for card skimming in my…

I think he meant Apple Pay on the web.

Personally I used it only once (although I am not in US market)

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