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In a world where every other tech company swindles and manipulates consumers at every opportunity, I'm happy that at least one is incentivized to do the opposite, and has the power to do so.

Apple swindles and manipulates the user to buying a new device whenever there is any fault at all because everything is glued and soldered together so fixing anything requires buying half of the device.

lol u mad

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Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

I've been trying for some time to explain to my friends and family how a unique email/password + 2FA strategy is the best thing to do and how it would allow them to cut one in case it gets leaked. I guess I will just tell everybody about "Sign in with Apple" now, it will be easier.

Take a look at SAASPASS Authenticator & Password Manager. It might meet your criteria of usability and security.

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Mozilla dropped the ball on this? They never had an opportunity to do this. Apple will only succeed by bulling developers that want to stay in the AppStore. Mozilla doesn’t have the market share or financial leverage to do anything like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Persona > Mozilla doesn’t have the market share or financial leverage to do anything like this Precisely. There was very little incentive for websites to adopt it at the time; Apple has a lot more power.

They tried, they didn’t have a way to force it on companies. Not sure how that’s considered dropping the ball?

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that smells like an anti-competitive behavior. obviously apple has considered this and is forging on anyway. good for them.

Competition is not anti-competitive. Excluding other third party sign on options would be problematic if Apple were abusing a dominant position among smartphone makers, which is not the case by any objective measure.

Is it problematic if Apple says "you must include us if you include anyone else?" That seems anti-competitive to me.

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post #295

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In a world where every other tech company swindles and manipulates consumers at every opportunity, I'm happy that at least one is incentivized to do the opposite, and has the power to do so.

Apple swindles and manipulates the user to buying a new device whenever there is any fault at all because everything is glued and soldered together so fixing anything requires buying half of the device.

Personal experience. Battery change on iphone SE, cost $75. They couldn't safely do the replacement (broken tabs on battery) and they simply replaced the phone.

I'm not sure how this is manipulating to get me to purchase a new phone.

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Apple ID as SSO, iMessage Profile, Memoji, and Apple Pay. Apple is near FB Messenger parity, now that it functions as an account for external services. It's an extremely strong move on Apple's part, especially considering how close to it they have been for a while. They sure like taking their time sometimes.

They're close to parity with a giant exception that it's not available to the overwhelming majority of Facebook users.

True, but Facebook’s overwhelming majority of users is completely irrelevant now that their brand is irreparably tarnished. People will still use Facebook for a long time, but nobody other than a few diehards and people who work there want FB to own their identity. I believe that particular grand vision is dead for FB despite their user base.

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Presumably such services won't implement Sign In With Apple in the first place. People will accept it because they want the sheer quantity of users Apple provides. The useful thing about Apple is that they can force people to do things they don't particularly want to do, like accept anonymous e-mail addresses or stop using Flash. (unfortunately this is also the bad thing about Apple)

"[Sign In with Apple] will be required as an option for users in apps that support third-party sign-in when it is commercially available later this year." https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j

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Re: Apple Sign In

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According to the App Store review guidelines update posted today, Sign In with Apple will be required for any iOS app that implements a single-sign in button. "Sign In with Apple will be available for beta testing this summer. It will be required as an option for users in apps that support third-party sign-in when it is commercially available later this year." https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j

Therefore, anyone offering Facebook/Google login will also have to accept Apple's anonymized forwarded email addresses, like fc452bd5ea@privaterelay.appleid.com.

But this explicitly doesn’t work as an SSO. How can I tie that back to the actual email address they would have used to create an account using their FB / Google account?

This sounds like a tremendous headache that I really don’t want to worry about. But Apple is looking to leverage their power in the app market to force me to implement a tool I may not be interested in as a merchant?

I despise being strong armed. I hope the EU crushes this.

Re: Apple Sign In

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On the downside if I use Apple Sign In on apps I probably won't be able to sign in to that application on my Android devices.

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On the downside if I use Apple Sign In on apps I probably won't be able to sign in to that application on my Android devices.

Or a non-Mac computer? I doubt it. This is likely just an Apple id sign-in that is progressively enhanced on ios / osx.
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