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Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by baroffoos »

_bxg1 wrote: post #295
NateEag wrote: post #292

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It strikes me as terrifying, personally, but to each their own. I have been responsible for creating and maintaining an app generation system. Among other things, it taught me that App Store Connect has many sharp edges showing how easy it is to abuse the kind of power you've correctly pointed out Apple has.

In a world where every other tech company swindles and manipulates consumers at every opportunity, I'm happy that at least one is incentivized to do the opposite, and has the power to do so.

Apple swindles and manipulates the user to buying a new device whenever there is any fault at all because everything is glued and soldered together so fixing anything requires buying half of the device.

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Post by rootusrootus »

throwayEngineer wrote: post #132
prdonahue wrote: post #78

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Who do you trust more _not_ to do sketchy stuff with your data, Apple or Google? For me it's unequivocally Apple.

For me, Apple. Google isn't outwardly evil. Apple being anti consumer and anti developer really show you who Apple works for.

Google, the company who makes Chrome? The Chrome that will soon prevent me from using an ad blocker?

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Post by jrockway »

CharlesColeman wrote: post #188
taytus wrote: post #113

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My first thought was: Bye bye mailinator.com

> My first thought was: Bye bye mailinator.com Mailinator can be pretty hard to use, since so many sites can detect the addresses and block their use. I've pretty much given up on it, and use Fastmail's very easy aliasing features with my domain. It's not quite as private, but it's a lot more reliable.

If I recall correctly, mailinator lets you host your own DNS record that sends mail to them. While I have never had any problems, back in the day I had nospam.jrock.us forward to mailinator and that worked every time.

The truly clever programmer could open an SMTP session to the mail exchangers specified in your email address, and reject you because they point to mailinator. I know of 0 programmers in the world that have written this code. I think you could ask the vast majority of programmers that work with email addresses and dark patterns to do this, and they wouldn't even know how. So you're probably pretty safe.

I use mailinator all the time and I have never had a problem, however, which is why I don't even have the MX records to host my own anymore.

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Post by jiveturkey »

polutropos wrote: post #308

According to the App Store review guidelines update posted today, Sign In with Apple will be required for any iOS app that implements a single-sign in button. "Sign In with Apple will be available for beta testing this summer. It will be required as an option for users in apps that support third-party sign-in when it is commercially available later this year." https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=06032019j

that smells like an anti-competitive behavior.

obviously apple has considered this and is forging on anyway. good for them.

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Post by rootusrootus »

basch wrote: post #289
djrogers wrote: post #272

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iOS allows you to set your default password manager...

I thought that was just default AutoFill? It allows saving passwords to your password manager too?

You can create/generate & save new login on the fly from the sign-in screen. At least with 1Password. It's clunkier than I think is strictly necessary, but it is effective.

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Post by baroffoos »

damnyou wrote: post #246
mindgam3 wrote: post #215

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True. Apple definitely playing the long game here, effectively. When iMessage came out I totally didn't see it ever becoming a viable identity play. But with all these privacy concerns, now it feels like the one to beat.

How can I access iMessage from my Linux laptop?

There is an app you can use on a jailbroken ios device that turns it in to a relay/web server which allows you to use imessage on any device. I guess if you really wanted to use it you could just buy an ancient iphone and leave it always plugged in.

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Post by Pym »

damnyou wrote: post #250
Pym wrote: post #194

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I've been trying for some time to explain to my friends and family how a unique email/password + 2FA strategy is the best thing to do and how it would allow them to cut one in case it gets leaked. I guess I will just tell everybody about "Sign in with Apple" now, it will be easier.

Will you also tell that to your Android or Windows using friends?

Family is easy, I made them switch to Apple years ago and things have been a breeze since. Most of my friends using Android are also working in IT and are already using disposable/forwarding emails AFAIK. And... to be honest, I don't have friends using Windows :D

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by rootusrootus »

the_watcher wrote: post #283
nwsm wrote: post #147

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In cases of a trustworthy third party, what is the concern of linking to Google/Facebook account compared to an Apple account that doesn't offer any data? I don't think I've seen any instances of Facebook integration credentials being hacked/stolen.

In reality, pretty much nothing (particularly since now, third parties basically only get name + email). The value is that some (small or large) number of potential users might not know or believe that and trust Apple more.

Ha, I can't imagine why I might trust Apple more than Facebook or Google. /s

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by baroffoos »

MRD85 wrote: post #237
mindgam3 wrote: post #233

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I highly recommend buying a 2015 Macbook Pro, if you can find someone willing to part with theirs. Apple laptop hardware started going off the rails after they shipped that one with touch bar + keyboard shenanigans.

Ok, thanks. I know nothing at all about Apple hardware. It's still a very daunting decision to make. I like the ability to buy my own hardware, for desktops, and to build what I like at a cheaper price. Apple charges a premium but now I have more of an idea of what that premium will get me. It would be a huge migration for me. Everything I own is tied to one of a few Gmail accounts. My photo history, my uni work in G…

At my office every single one of the new macbooks (since about 3-4 years ago) has had the keyboard fail. Some of them have had the keyboard fail repeatedly after getting apple to fix it.

The ifixit tear down shows that the 2019 model has done nothing to fix the issue. I highly recommend the Dell XPS over a macbook pro. The form factor is very similar but the hardware is much more reliable and fixing it is way way easier as most parts can be replaced separately.

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Post by move-on-by »

ricardobeat wrote: post #211

Whoa. Apple is picking up where Mozilla’s ball dropped, but with a massively better chance of success. Cheers to whoever is running this show.

Mozilla dropped the ball on this? They never had an opportunity to do this. Apple will only succeed by bulling developers that want to stay in the AppStore. Mozilla doesn’t have the market share or financial leverage to do anything like this.
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