Packages were probably getting a free "upgrade". The same upgrade that cost Cisco billions in revenue over the past 5 years. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
Upgrades like what? Spell checking? These were packages of documents.
Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'
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Very simply, sanctions evasion is enforced differently from other domains. In any case, China is a terrible foil for the rule of law. Meng will get a fair trial in America. Nobody from anywhere would get the same in China.
> Meng will get a fair trial in America. Your faith is US justice is admirable and patriotic. Do you believe Assange would also get a fair trial in USA ?
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Where does the US have jurisdiction? This is a legitimate question. What legal right does the US government have to enforce US laws on a foreigner who isn't in the US, for actions taken outside the US and which were not illegal in the country the person resides in? I'd legitimately like to know what sort of legal argument is used to justify this, because it sounds like a massive overreach by the United States. Regard…
The US has a reciprocal agreement with Canada. These agreements are the basis for jurisdiction.
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> I am kind of surprised that neither Deutsche Post[0] nor ZTO[1] nor SF Express[2] shares are up on the news. Why would they be up on the news? They're just as likely to be engaging in the same behavior, only for a different set of government actors.
Deutsche Post? Forget it. The scandal would be off the scale. Stasi is a living memory in Germany.
Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'
#155Hanlon's razor applies here. If there was truly something nefarious going on, why would FedEx update the tracking status to say that the packages were re-routed? Why not just say they were held up in the sending or receiving country?
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It isn't.
I know there are other accounts of packages being intercepted, but is there a previous example where Fedex's tracking information openly states that a package was diverted to the U.S.? My impression from the prior accounts was that the interception was far more clandestine.
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#157Not related to this package delivery drama, but the way we are observing the live demolition of the world largest networking equipment maker and second largest smartphone maker (by number) in the name of trade war will never bring back the confidence in those who are flexing muscle. The illusion of the rule of law, free world, globalization and the reality of control is simply frightening, and worrisome.
> The illusion of the rule of law Rule of law has always been national. International politics are anarchic. Huawei quite clearly broke the laws of the United States ( e.g. with respect to Iran), repeatedly and wilfully.
Are you saying that I can simply divert you mail because I think you broke my laws?
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#159> FedEx spokeswoman Maury Donahue told Reuters the packages were “misrouted in error” and that FedEx was not requested to divert them by any other party. Scout's honor. Sounds a lot like Huawei saying it was just a coding error. Would they get away of a spying accusation with this? If it can happen in the US (FedEx, Cisco) it can surely happen in China. It's strange seeing people defending this as "probably an error"…
The difference is that Huawei has a board of CCP members that sits within Huawei and has say over their actions. While FedEx is an independent company that operates within the US, and has access to US courts to defend themselves. It's 1st party vs 3rd party, when it comes to government influence. Huawei is assumed to be working at behalf of the CCP because the CCP has management control over the company. It's like Fa…
Again, decide for yourself what's good or bad but be consistent, not selective depending on who's doing it: "us" or "them" ;).
Re: Huawei reviewing FedEx relationship, says packages 'diverted'
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Very simply, sanctions evasion is enforced differently from other domains. In any case, China is a terrible foil for the rule of law. Meng will get a fair trial in America. Nobody from anywhere would get the same in China.
> Meng will get a fair trial in America. Your faith is US justice is admirable and patriotic. Do you believe Assange would also get a fair trial in USA ?
No. I don’t believe secret courts can be fair courts.
Meng, however, is being charged through normal channels by a prosecutor who must make a case in the regular court system. The charges and decisions will be made in the open. (There is a decent chance, due to the difficulty of admitting large swaths of evidence, that she could win.)