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Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by mbrameld »

ixtli wrote: post #48

Uh this is typical cultish reaction to being called out: accuse others of doing exactly what you yourself are doing. I'd like to remind everyone here, in case you are considering crossfit, that several years ago they caused a rash of cases of rhabdomyolysis. So in response they created a clown character called "Uncle Rhabdo" which they attached to propaganda that tried to convince their members that this possibly fat…

You're saying they're leaving Facebook now because of the rhabdo stuff several years ago?

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#102

Post by viraptor »

diffserv wrote: post #91
viraptor wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Academia has little scientific agenda at its core—most things boil down to money. It's like you're right, but completely wrong at the same time... At it's core, scientific research should not have an agenda. Researchers are normally happy to do important things and they have good ideas. Yes, the funding is a really big issue and lack of needed followups to interesting results of the initial sponsor often happens wh…

You are assuming that everybody in this system is honest: researchers, funders, and companies. None of these entities need to be honest to do research or to come up with topics. This is a big fallacy with academic research: nobody needs to be honest or truthful, and as much as you like to believe they are, they have no reason to be honest. I have experienced this first hand during my PhD life. > Researchers are norma…

> This is a big fallacy with academic research: nobody needs to be honest or truthful, and as much as you like to believe they are, they have no reason to be honest.

They don't have to be as long as others can verify their findings. At some point, mistakes and dishonesty should be treated the same way.

> Usually a goal is the prerequisite of the funding. If that goal doesn't align up with the interest of the company/or the funder, there won't be any funding to begin with.

I think we're very much in agreement. I just don't put that as academia's problem, but rather explicitly on how we fund it. A.k.a blame the game not the player.

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by mbrameld »

lwansbrough wrote: post #89
busterarm wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I power-lifted. I got injured. Many of us did. It's much higher. Even the studies show it: https://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/wp-content/u... https://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/2014/07/08/i...

Powerlifting is definitely not the same as general CrossFit and is pretty obviously a dangerous sport. I would guess that based on the amount of jerking and twisting I see in CrossFitters doing powerlifting that the injury rate would be higher still within that specific discipline. Again, all speculation on my part. I’m thinking an intense workout with good form and control vs. a standard CrossFit workout.

> I’m thinking an intense workout with good form and control vs. a standard CrossFit workout

A standard CrossFit without is done with good form and control.

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by JohnBooty »

weq wrote: post #99
abtinf wrote: post #92

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It is hard to say whether FB or CrossFit has more influence in this situation. I have friends on FB who are fanatical about CrossFit. They write and post photos about workouts, events, and achievements. They seem to have limited use for FB otherwise. With their sizable national (and increasingly global) community of dedicated fitness enthusiasts, I suspect CrossFit has better-than-even odds of launching a wildly succ…

CorssFit isnt a social network, its a cult. Ive had multiple friends join the cult, including one friend whos wife divorced him because he didnt share her love of CrossFit. The end result was always the same - chronic injuries usually only seen in professional sports people -> move to multi-level-marketing / influencing for any product linked to fitness / inspirational pr0n.

Been doing it for six months and never seen any of this.

Obsessive people are gonna obsess, and some will be drawn to Crossfit, but I've seen nothing more obsessive about Crossfit than other sports I've participated in like tennis or hockey. And honestly I'm not sure any of them hold a candle to software development in terms of obsessiveness... never known anybody to exercise 60 hours a week, but I know a lot of coders and gamers who hunch over a keyboard for that long. (Including me)

    > move to multi-level-marketing
I just go and work out and have no idea about the community around it (other than liking the folks at my gym) but I don't get the MLM jab here?

I've never heard of any kind of referral-based or MLM opportunity in crossfit.

    > chronic injuries usually only seen in professional sports people
I can only share my own anecdotal experiences and that is that our gym's trainers are super focused on healthy techniques for weighted exercises. (And I might add, at least at our gym, you're never supposed to do them at anywhere near your max weight!)

Ultimately, a lot of athletes including me are making a reasoned choice. You can't really control a lot of things about your body, but you can definitely control your cardio fitness and your muscle mass to an extent. There are some risks involved with furthering your cardio and strength but also massive rewards.

    > including one friend whos wife divorced him because he didnt share her love of CrossFit
Is her exercise routine really the cause here, or is it a symptom? This doesn't sound like the healthiest marriage.

I definitely understand that it can cause friction when one partner puts effort into healthier living and one doesn't. I've been on both sides of that coin. Right now my wife's taken the lead, I need to catch up.

I've watched friends die because they refused to be proactive about diet, health, and exercise in general. Never had a friend die from exercising yet. Although some of them really ought to talk a bit less about it if you ask me.

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Post by kolbe »

3327 wrote: post #100
ixtli wrote: post #48

Uh this is typical cultish reaction to being called out: accuse others of doing exactly what you yourself are doing. I'd like to remind everyone here, in case you are considering crossfit, that several years ago they caused a rash of cases of rhabdomyolysis. So in response they created a clown character called "Uncle Rhabdo" which they attached to propaganda that tried to convince their members that this possibly fat…

First rule of crossfit is you always talk about crossfit.

That joke was mildly funny when I first saw it five years ago. I’m not sure why you think Hacker News is the right place to regurgitate such a hackneyed, distracting and irrelevant joke.

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by gvand »

bryanwb wrote: post #53

Actions like this are an annoying distraction. Crossfit HQ is kind of a nuthouse. The Crossfit program is truly wonderful as long as you always use proper form. If you can't use proper form on a rep, don't do the rep. It's that simple. I have been doing Crossfit for a year and haven't seen any significant injuries. But my gym emphasizes proper form over numbers. Some gyms ensure people use proper form, some don't. Cr…

> Crossfit (done properly) is leagues better for your overall health than weightlifting, running, bicycling, you name it.

Says who? Links, please.

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by saintPirelli »

I see a lot of scepticism towards CrossFit here and it's probably with good reason, but I just want to add that your experience with the method of training is very dependant on the actual gym you go to.

Where I started training (and I was like the definition of "out of shape") the coaches preach form > intensity every step of the way and actually forbid you to do any dynamic movement before you have not sufficently mastered the strict equivalent. That said, I have also met Crossfitters that can do ten unbroken kipping pull ups and not a single strict one, which is obviously incredibly irresponsible and stupid.

I have now moved away from doing regular CrossFit workouts for many of the reasons listed in this thread, but I can honestly say, that changing my habits from couchpotato to fit dude would have not happened if it wasn't for the community and the style of training I have encoutered there. I learned how to backsquat there, I learned how to lock in my shoulders there, I learned how to stretch there, I learned about the basics of training methodology there. This would have never happend if I would have just gone to Planet Fitness (or whatever) on my own.

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by michaelbrooks »

mbrameld wrote: post #103
lwansbrough wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Powerlifting is definitely not the same as general CrossFit and is pretty obviously a dangerous sport. I would guess that based on the amount of jerking and twisting I see in CrossFitters doing powerlifting that the injury rate would be higher still within that specific discipline. Again, all speculation on my part. I’m thinking an intense workout with good form and control vs. a standard CrossFit workout.

> I’m thinking an intense workout with good form and control vs. a standard CrossFit workout A standard CrossFit without is done with good form and control.

Most CrossFit gyms aim for good form and control. All workouts can be scaled, if you can't lift a certain weight, or perform a certain movement you scale it down to a weight or movement you can do comfortably.

For instance, if you were asked to perform a workout which required handstand push-ups and you couldn't do them, you could scale to a box and do a more triangular movement, or you could grab some dumbbells and push-press. If a movement said 100kg deadlift and you can only comfortably deadlift 40kg then you would use 40kg instead.

Most coaches will talk through this and if you have questions, they'll mostly be happy to answer. Of course there are some coaches out there which aren't doing their job correctly, but most of them are really good at what they do.

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

#109

Post by gvand »

Reminder:

Always reflect on who you are associating yourself with, in a cult, company owned group, non-democratic group, activity that marks you as "one of them",etc... you cease to be an individual and become just the fuel behind someone else's agenda and values (neither of which you can control).

Be an individual.

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