This is reason why verticaly integrated monopolies are bad.That is reason i use F—droid and everyone should support open source(completely open sourced programs).
Google suspends some business with Huawei
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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe. I'd prefer that neither of them have my data. I do believe that competition limits the exploits. If there's an alternative, you have to fear losing your customers (and their money), so you limit what you do to them. If there isn't any, why would you? Right now, the competition is basically only Apple vs Google. Both USA, both from California. A bit more diversity would be nice.
I agree with that. I'm proud to have worked on FirefoxOS as part of an effort to create such competition! (Which is still going on with KaiOS.)
Yeah, too bad FirefoxOS never made it too far. Unfortunately, it would still be only "kind of" competition: still US-based, still in California, still financed & owned by the same (group of) people.
I'd love some real competition. Chinese, Russian, European alternatives. I would have a hard time trusting Chinese or Russian systems, maybe rightfully, maybe because decades of Propaganda have taken their toll. I'd still like to see them.
Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
tesla is starting to automate car manufacturing and seems to be making progress. can you comment on the feasibility on automating smartphone manufacturing? do elements of smartphone manufacturing render automation intractable, or harder than car manufacturing?
As I understand it, the majority of individual smartphone components would be manufactured using automation, and the primary step that takes place in Shenzhen is someone physically putting all the pieces together. I couldn't make an informed comment on the feasibility or cost effectiveness of trying to automate this process as well (I'd guess it's fairly low due to the relative uniqueness of each phone model) but may…
the car/tesla analogy was a mistake as it's secondary and evidently not true, but too late to edit the comment. thanks for sharing about smartphone manufacturing. it seems like foxconn is already moving toward this, though naturally slower than projected: https://qz.com/1312079/iphone-maker-foxconn-is-churning-out-...
can you recommend any sources for learning more about the state of automated CE/smartphone manufacturing, or this based on personal experience?
Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#384This isn't surprising. What the US government wants the government gets. I was working for a large ISP in 2010-2011 and we were considering long haul transport gear between Huawei and Infinera. All things being equal Huawei had a better cost/performance value prop. That was, until the FBI came in with a heavy handed opinion. You see at that point in time the best place to siphon data was at large ingress/egress. As I…
This might provide some context as to why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JrF2X4Db84
After 9-11, the FBI's mandate was expanded from investigating terrorist attacks to include preventing them from occurring.
Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#385As an Australian with a Hauwei phone, the writing is on the wall for me. Google Android in no longer a universal platform and moving forward, I doubt I'll ever buy anything again Google or US related again in terms of tech. This si no longer a China vs US issue, it's the US vs the world.
Out of interest, what phone can you get that is not US or google related?
Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#386This isn't surprising. What the US government wants the government gets. I was working for a large ISP in 2010-2011 and we were considering long haul transport gear between Huawei and Infinera. All things being equal Huawei had a better cost/performance value prop. That was, until the FBI came in with a heavy handed opinion. You see at that point in time the best place to siphon data was at large ingress/egress. As I…
By LE capable firmware you mean that the FBI had a backdoor to eavesdrop? Wow.
No, not at all. It was an extension of lawful wiretaps in to the digital age. CALEA required that manufacturers add the ability for lawful intercept to be done on their equipment by the providers that purchased them.
Law enforcement still had to go to a judge, get a court order, and take it to the ISP. The ISP could then configure the devices to siphon off traffic from a single customer to a collection device.
The same functionality and process has existed in phone networks basically since they became electronically switched.
Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#387Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like Guantanamo?
Anyone who ended up in Guntanamo would have had a bullet to head in PRC, they would not bother with a camp. It is for hundreds of thousands of undesirables(like Muslims etc). When USA ships it’s Muslims into a camp in Nevada desert and starts re-educating them let us know
As if CIA and co doesn't do the same.
So how is Geneva convention working on there?
Your list of undesirables is just sad.
Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#388In a way, this helps Apple (and other Android vendors) and in a way, it hurts it. Huawei phones recently have shipped market leading cameras that blow pretty much all other Android and iPhone cameras out of the water. They took a commanding lead as a premium device manufacturer. Hurting their non-China markets gives breathing space to others. However, if I were Apple, I'd be really worried about retaliation. Apple is…
The last thing China wants during a trade war is to have the 3 million people in Apple's supply chain unemployed and angry. This particular leverage is also why iMessage isn't blocked in China.
The only thing the Chinese government has to do is explain that American imperialist white piggus are trying to destroy the Chinese people and they wouldn't even be lying for once.
Nationalism is a play card in every country.
Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#389Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes indeed [0]. [0] https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/10000/10008/fe...
Doesn’t seem like a backdoor AFIACT—just support for handling a request from the government. (Distinction being that the ISP manually tells their equipment to intercept data instead of the government having technical access.)
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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei
#390Google has a long history of F...all altitude. Not a surprise.