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In what world is Huawei a leading premium device manufacturer? Do you have a source?
He is right.
Source? And how do you define premium? The sentence implies leading as in market shares, and not technological.
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#162I avoided those phones like the plague, guess it was a good choice. I bet it has a lot to do with the whole huawei backdoor story. To be honest outsourcing such sensitive consumer device to a police state has not been a good idea for a long time. I hope it will give good reasons to consider designing either open smartphones, or minimalist os designs with c++ or webasm apps. If smartphones get bloated, they won't be a…
Not sure that giving it to a prism+xkeyscore state is thaaat much better. And yes legal protection in the US is a lot better than China, while I as European have little power in either, but also hardly an alternative.
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#163In a way, this helps Apple (and other Android vendors) and in a way, it hurts it. Huawei phones recently have shipped market leading cameras that blow pretty much all other Android and iPhone cameras out of the water. They took a commanding lead as a premium device manufacturer. Hurting their non-China markets gives breathing space to others. However, if I were Apple, I'd be really worried about retaliation. Apple is…
The last thing China wants during a trade war is to have the 3 million people in Apple's supply chain unemployed and angry.
This particular leverage is also why iMessage isn't blocked in China.
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#164I may have missed this, but have there been any specific accusations against Huawei? It is clear Chinese actors hack and steal IP, but have those been connected to Huawei, or are they just the easiest victim for the US to retaliate against?
There were reports out of the UK about bad software hygiene, with some implications of bug-doors.
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#165In a way, this helps Apple (and other Android vendors) and in a way, it hurts it. Huawei phones recently have shipped market leading cameras that blow pretty much all other Android and iPhone cameras out of the water. They took a commanding lead as a premium device manufacturer. Hurting their non-China markets gives breathing space to others. However, if I were Apple, I'd be really worried about retaliation. Apple is…
How much more expensive would an iPhone be that’s assembled in the US?
Cost is not the reason all consumer electronics are made in China. Actually, manufacturing there is now more expensive than Estern Europe.
They build them there because all the supply chain is already there. In Shenzhen, the capacitors, resistors, PCBs and most chips are sourced in bulk from around the block. That's something no other country in the West or even East has and it's such a complex interconnected ecosystem that you can't replicate it anywhere else right now.
Most of the CNC, tooling and moulding craftsmen are there as well, the west has far too few left to be able to take over such volumes. Training so many can take years and that's assuming you even find enough people willing to be trained.
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#166>the Chinese technology company that the U.S. government has sought to blacklist around the world Around the world?
In Germany it was in the news that US hinted that if we wouldn't participate in banning Huawei we are excluded from further sharing of intelligence and stuff like this. For 5G and T-Mobile i.e. Deutsche Telekom AG they basically said: Dare to buy Huawai and you gonna have a bad time. It's these liberal and western high ethics at work here...
Like building Putin gas pipeline behind EUs back?
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#167I may have missed this, but have there been any specific accusations against Huawei? It is clear Chinese actors hack and steal IP, but have those been connected to Huawei, or are they just the easiest victim for the US to retaliate against?
When it comes to security everyone's guilty until proven innocent.
And it is impossible to prove innocent.
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#168Huawei already saw this coming; at least that's what the company signaled last march when they announced they have a 'backup OS': https://www.engadget.com/amp/2019/03/14/huawei-confirms-os/
Sure, they were. This is the closest thing to Baghdad Bob's bluster, I have heard in my life.
Here is a helpful read, http://zeihan.com/my-way-or-the-huawei/
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#169The US doing some market manipulation again; good thing they want to stop companies and countries from spying on people. /s
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to play devil's advocate, do you have any citations for that statement?
I'd hardly presume Huawei is a front for a foreign intelligence service, but their software for cellular basestations is extremely vulnerable (hundreds of different vulnerable versions of OpenSSL sprinkled through) and they still can't be bothered to use version control, despite committing to address both issues back in 2012: https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-huawei-bri... Huawei's products are vulner…
No, I think it is, that would explain a lot of things - like how can they make/sell premium mobile phones for less? If the Chinese govt is paying you (say) $100/user to plant a back door, that would certainly help.
Remember that Huawei settled out of court to the 'allegation' that they copied Cisco's source code.
So, are Facebook a front for the CIA?