Live data from Hacker News

Google suspends some business with Huawei

reuters.com

141–150 of 506 posts

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#141
I may have missed this, but have there been any specific accusations against Huawei? It is clear Chinese actors hack and steal IP, but have those been connected to Huawei, or are they just the easiest victim for the US to retaliate against?

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#142

No more updates for my Huawei phone then presumably. Really feeling more secure now!

Well, OS updates weren't going through the play store anyway, no? And it appears you'll continue to be able to download app updates via the play store "But users of existing Huawei devices who have access to the Google Play Store will still be able to download app updates provided by Google.".

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#143
post #134

I always wondered what would it take for a company to develop an alternative mobile operating system? To me the combination of Android and iOS always was the perfect mold around the business of high-end mobile phones. Android is given away for free; but to make a truly great end user experience hardware and software needs to be integrated. Like it is for iOS. But that requires an enourmous investment; and there is no…

At this point I speculate a lot are on iOS to avoid android, and vice versa. Any offering that hwei makes will surely not move the needle from either camp, but it’s good to see some new competition

If this escalation is continued; Apple will likely loose access to the Chinese market creating a huge open space for a high-end mobile phone offering.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#144
post #134

I always wondered what would it take for a company to develop an alternative mobile operating system? To me the combination of Android and iOS always was the perfect mold around the business of high-end mobile phones. Android is given away for free; but to make a truly great end user experience hardware and software needs to be integrated. Like it is for iOS. But that requires an enourmous investment; and there is no…

There were lots of "alternative" mobile OS's before AOSP, and even before iOS - AOSP simply got critical mass behind it in a way that other OS's didn't. But Huawei isn't going to push for an open alternative either - even their versions of AOSP have always been among the most closed and hardest to "mod". As far as openness goes, Purism/Librem, and the pmOS community project remain our best bets.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#145
post #139
post #134

I always wondered what would it take for a company to develop an alternative mobile operating system? To me the combination of Android and iOS always was the perfect mold around the business of high-end mobile phones. Android is given away for free; but to make a truly great end user experience hardware and software needs to be integrated. Like it is for iOS. But that requires an enourmous investment; and there is no…

Microsoft tried hard to have a mobile operating system, there were others too but the problem is that nobody cares for the operating system if there is no viable ecosystem around it.

And Microsoft's mobile OS was actually good - many lamented its demise.

Didn't Samsung also create a new mobile OS in recent times? I wonder how that's doing now?

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#147
post #72

I guess this is a thinly veiled attack on China, but I'm a bit confused why there's a feud between the US and China in the first place. Perhaps my ignorance is down to being British and a bit out of the loop, but could someone give a rough outline on what the underlying motives for this are?

Let me give it a shot with actual references, and years of paying attention, not whatever I heard the talking heads say last night. The US perceives the economic relationship with China to be one way. Prior to the recent trade flair ups, China was given preferential treatment, perhaps as part of a strategy to create a geopolitical ally instead of an enemy through trade. This appeared to be working for several decades…

>So basically a viewpoint that I tend to agree with is that this is all about resetting the trade relationship to a normal one between peers.

Fairly sure you're wrong on this, the US now wants an advantageous relationship. Not an even score.

Just returning to even ground would let China keep the advantages it has reaped.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#148
I assume Cadence, Synopsys, Mentor Graphics, Xilinx, Intel PSG, Microsemi, Lattice, and Qualcomm are also affected by the Huawei blacklist.

Can Huawei survive without these critical components and EDA tools? If Huawei ignores the loss of licenses and uses existing software and libraries to develop future products, will those be banned from US and EU markets?

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#149
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I speculate a lot are on iOS to avoid android, and vice versa. Any offering that hwei makes will surely not move the needle from either camp, but it’s good to see some new competition

If this escalation is continued; Apple will likely loose access to the Chinese market creating a huge open space for a high-end mobile phone offering.

[deleted]

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#150

In a way, this helps Apple (and other Android vendors) and in a way, it hurts it. Huawei phones recently have shipped market leading cameras that blow pretty much all other Android and iPhone cameras out of the water. They took a commanding lead as a premium device manufacturer. Hurting their non-China markets gives breathing space to others. However, if I were Apple, I'd be really worried about retaliation. Apple is…

In what world is Huawei a leading premium device manufacturer? Do you have a source?
Post reply on HN