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In what world is Huawei a leading premium device manufacturer? Do you have a source?
Asking for a source for an assertion that is a fairly well-known fact is simply lazy.
Huawei is #2 or #1 by unit shipment. That doesn't immediately make them a "leading" Premium Smartphone maker. I could sell 200M of $200 Phones and 10M of $700 Phones. Would that make them leading? Would that make them premium?
That's great! We will finally be able to buy google-free android devices from a major vendor!
What I read apps remain supported, but (security) updates to the firmware will stop. So Google continues to sell user data and the NSA has even easier access.
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https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS44188018
This doesn't show they are a leading premium smartphone manufacturer. This says they are a 2nd largest smartphone manufacturer. Leading premium manufacturer means largest volume of premium smartphones sold. Huawei doesn't sell a lot of P30 (although I agree it's a premium device).
You do know that China actively has concentration camps, right? They use data and tech they've stolen to do it. You really think that's the same as Facebook serving you ads? Give me a break.
No (I sense I need to add), I'm not defending concentration camps, just defending HN against burning itself to a crisp. If you want to participate on HN, please contribute to thoughtful conversation. "Concentration camps [...] give me a break" does not qualify.
Moreover, we've had to warn you about this exact thing before. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the spirit of this site more to heart? Our hope is not to be one more place on the internet where people bring bags of clubs to bash each other with.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19955289 and marked it off-topic.
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In what world is Huawei a leading premium device manufacturer? Do you have a source?
Do you consider Samsung a premium Android manufacturer? I assume you're not defining "premium" == "Apple". If you admit that there are premium Android phones, and that Samsung is one of the manufacturers, well, Huawei is on track to surpass Samsung in units sold, AND it has the best reviewed camera. It blows away the iPhone X series, especially at low light, but also produces incredible night/low light protography be…
>People who live in the US kind of live in a reality distortion field around Apple, and are somewhat blind to what is happening in Europe and Asia. And this complacence is a pretty bad way to evaluate your competitors.
It isn't RDF, it is "leading premium manufacture" does mean what you think it means. It would be more accurate if it was "leading premium Android manufacturers".
No more updates for my Huawei phone then presumably. Really feeling more secure now!
Google have no choice but to comply with US law. This is now going to make a load of existing US owned (Huawei manufactured) devices less secure unless an exemption is agreed for things like software security updates. Not only that, the ban encourages a long term move away from US-based tech as alternatives are needed within China. This new tech will ultimately be available worldwide, but no longer owned or controlle…
Like they have no choice with tax laws. Or no choice with cartel laws. Or no choice with data protection laws.
They are agressively trying to circumvent many laws all the times to extend their monopoly and grow their profits. They have multi-billion fines from the EU and several member states pending and no somewhat critical thinking citizen would claim that EU has been particularly tough on their monopoly and tax evasions.
Well, Android is opensource so they will be able to just run it, but without that google crap such as gmail, maps, assistant, etc... Which sounds like a good thing to me. I'll try to buy a new Huawei phone soon.
Heh, there will be a rude awakening when they try AOSP or the open-source Android.. "wait, it doesn't have a launcher?" No, seriously, AOSP is very far from useful. That's before you consider that to run Android on any sort of recent hardware, you need manufacturer support from the chips you are using, which you can't get if you are barred from trade with them.