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Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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I don't watch TV ads, but a giant Chromebook ad is now cycling on the billboard next to my office. I really wish more jurisdictions would ban billboard ads.

Why though? Becauss Google uses them?

No, I've been against billboards long before Google started using them. IMO they're visual blight that don't serve any positive function.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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> I’m a Works with Nest developer. Will I be able to access and control Nest devices moving forward? > No. The Actions on Google Smart Home platform does not provide open API access to Nest devices, so it cannot be used to access and control Nest devices. Instead, managing and controlling Google Home, Nest, and thousands of third-party smart home devices is done through the Google Home app and the Google Assistant. W…

I'm waiting for the day when Google decides to raise/lower the temperature of millions of homes by 1 degree to brag about how much energy they've saved.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Do you mostly consume text, or images/rich media? Something about Reader just worked for me. It was partly some blogs I followed and wanted to keep up with reading, but the meat of it for me was just scrolling endless pictures from various design blogs, that i'd sometimes star or label. Or some webcomic that I'd share with my handful of friends that were on there. Or I'd catch up whatever BMX or ski edits that came o…

Reader worked really well for me, too. And killing Reader seemed to send a signal to a lot of people that rss was 'done', whether rightly or wrongly - all that matters is that people believe it. I saw a lot less rss around subsequently. I switched to a few other services but ultimately just faded out on rss in general, which is a shame, as it was nice to have a non-algorithmic-curation feed of stuff I liked.

Good news for you! Every site that publishes a feed of articles still has an rss feed! You can go back whenever you want, nothing has changed.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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EU law (because the EU seems to be the only one willing to make these big laws inconveniencing tech) - any IOT enabled product that has the IOT capabilities removed by closing of a service without a simple way for those capabilities to be re-enabled (simple being further clarified in law) can be returned for a full purchase refund up to 3 months after closing of the service.

You still have to strip your thermostats off the wall. The best is still to not buy any device that is meant to last more than 5y that relies on a service.

You say that as if it's hard to remove.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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At Google, no one wants to work on existing things. You must create new product/feature to get promoted. Then you move on and thing gets shutdown. This is direct consequences of their internal incentive structure.

The big problem here is that there are a lot of people that have spent a lot of money in buying quality hardware that isn't just for leisure, it's for protection. I'll cite my 4 Nest Protects and an outdoor camera as an example. If somehow they get "sunsetted" due to some Google whim, fad or Because They Can, then I'm going to be pretty p*ssed to say the least. Based on past experience I don't trust Google to act in…

It's especially annoying when you bought a product specifically because it wasn't a Google product and you had confidence that the developers would leave the devices fully functional for its lifetime, then the company gets bought out by Google and the APIs get shut down or sucked into some goddamn cloud service nonsense.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Since you claim its exactly the same as previous shutdowns listed; when Google shut down Wave, which paid for Google product were they aiming to increase adoption of?

my memory of wave is that it barely even launched. wasn't it around less than a year? did anyone actually use it?

My group of friends tried to. It could have been quite successful, since it basically offered what Discord is now.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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I've been considering pasting this: https://killedbygoogle.com/ every time the argument comes up. Maybe Google proponents will make one for other companies notorious for killing services, but at least for now, the Google Graveyard grows.

What a ridiculous website. Yes, the company that possibly writes more software than any other in the world has a lot of deprecated/dead software projects. Who would have thought? This would be more effective at making its point if it highlighted projects whose deprecation was particularly ungraceful/disruptive/careless, and explain how.

No, actually, its YOU who hasn't understood the point of the website. The website aims to be a simple list of discontinued products. Now that you know what the point of the website is, you can decide for yourself if you want to visit it.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Why? There are tons of perfectly good rss feed readers. I've never understood this one. I was a heavy Reader user, seamlessly switched to Feedly like the day after it was spun down, and never thought about it again.

The really killer feature, to me and a lot of others, is that it let you discover, and communicate with, people that also liked the same feed entries. I had, entirely without planning, accumulated a nice little group of people with which I shared anything and everything I read via RSS. I use Feedly now too but I still miss my Reader band.

Ok I didn't know it did that. I never used that, but it does sound neat.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Realistically is there any lawsuit that can make any dent in Google's profits?

While they are not civil lawsuits, EU's anti-competition fines certainly can make a dent in any company's profits since they are based on a percentage of global turnover.

Same with GDPR fines
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