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Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API
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#452Earlier quoted context omitted.
[Spoiler alert, Hyperion series] That sounds totally lifted from the Hyperion series, but maybe the idea is earlier than that, does anyone have a proposed source for that idea that's earlier than 1989?
The writers were big Sci-Fi fans. The Asari were heavily influenced by the Minbari of Babylon 5. There are lots of other callouts to classic Sci-Fi in the series.
The bones of the setting and plot, the tone, plus lots of details, are so heavily borrowed from B5 that it's practically a kind of remix.
Not complaining, though, since [heresy incoming] they seem to have said "what if we took B5's setting but tweaked it to make it better" and then did it.
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#453It seems weird they're announcing this during I/O - you'd think they'd avoid telling developers that their platforms sometimes shut down with 3 months notice and with no replacement provided when everyone's paying attention.
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#454Are there any Open Source hard/software based home-assistant alternatives to stuff like Nest and Alexa?
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I think that many people naturally expect Google to work like a lot of other companies, which are focused on satisfying individual customers. Google, though, is unusual that most of their users are not Google customers. They are the product. So Google's relationship to most individuals is statistical , not personal. If they care about me as an individual, I have never seen the slightest sign of it. I also think that…
Why should anyone let a Google self-driving car on the road? They will just end support for it whenever "internal politics shift." Let's ban Google from working on life-saving medical devices, because they will just get bored and stop supporting the software.
> Why should anyone let a Google self-driving car on the road? They will just end support for it whenever "internal politics shift."
So what? That's between the car buyers and Google. Why should they be disallowed?
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#456Does this mean Alexa won't be able to control my thermostat anymore? What a crappy way to get me to switch to their ecosystem.
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#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows is “hiding in the cushy enterprise segment”??
Well for sure, when it comes to developer exposure. This point was about “enterprise” software in general and the fact that many a project has been abandoned and put down in this space without much fanfare. Also, many big companies tend to pay a lot of money for software the never actually use, hence “cushy”.
I think you have the wrong end of the stick. Plenty of companies do that, sure, but Microsoft has always been a very, very aggressive mass-market player. Their software is used in enterprise, sure, but it’s by almost every enterprise, not just isolated niches.
They’re competitive on prices too (although it’s tough when many of your direct competitors are free). Compare MS Office with something like Maya or AutoCAD, say.
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I have Wemo smart plugs that I have plugged in all sorts of stuff like Heater, Lamps, and TV, etc connected to my Google Home and Home Mini. And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. There are so many bugs creating so many complications that I feel they are not worth using. You'd need to reconnect them with WEMO app time and again, restart these frequently if they just stop work…
> And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. Not all smart devices are created alike. Research your purchases. So far the one I’ve been most happy with is IKEA Trådfri. It costs roughly half of the comparable Phillips hue offering, but still delivers on any aspect I care about. Works 100% locally, uses standard Zigbee (non-WiFi) networking. No cloud required. Supports HomeKit, Al…
I have Trådfri and Philips Hue. Trådfri is good, but I prefer my Hue devices. They are even better quality.
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I'm really happy with the Ecobee as well. The Alexa integration in the newer model doesn't work well possibly due to inferior microphones, in my experience, but I didn't want that anyway so it fits my needs perfectly. In a few years, it will also return a profit due to an at-purchase and annual credit that my electricity utility provides.
Does Ecobee have a local API option? I thought it was cloud based as well ...
As far as I understand, it is cloud-based as well with no accessible local API, so it unfortunately doesn't eliminate this possibility in the future.
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#460For those who see this as Google turning off an unused service: no, just no. This is Google cutting off a massive interop ecosystem to try to parlay the success of Nest into higher adoption of Google Home. That’s vastly different than shutting down G+, Wave, Orkut, Reader, etc. It would be as if they announced tomorrow that the only way to read GMail is in Chrome browser or on an Android phone.
It's a typical Asshole Executive move: leverage successful feature to increase adoption of random other product, and then convert adoption increase into bonus and career opportunities, and hope that the loss in goodwill isn't noticed. It was the same when G+ was created. Asshole Executives started jamming + buttons everywhere, including search results (!). They killed + in search queries as meaning "required". Every…
> Every semi-successful feature had to get G+ integration to maximize the adoption of G+.
Also, forced Youtube integration and G+ accounts being required even to rate Android apps.