I guess all my nest stuff is going ebay... Too bad.
Sell to the greater fool?
I'm going to try!
Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API
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#92As someone who uses Home Assistant to keep some level of control over my data, this sucks.
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#93So my Nest app[1] that has 1800+ registered users will stop working in August. :'( [1] https://richev.me/nest
Look not to be blunt, but 1800 users? Why should they care? I'm being a devils advocate, but ... if you were at Google and a person making large business decisions, why would you care about 1800 users?
Vote me down all you want, but it's a valid business question.
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#94Anyone know if Alexa is their biggest Nest API client?
That's one way to shut out Amazon.
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#95I see Google API/ecosystem fans often defending or dismissing Google’s pattern of behavior here, using arguments like this: “Well, sure, they shut down that API I don’t use — big deal; all things come to an end eventually! But, they’d NEVER do that to this API I rely on — that would be so horrible, Google just would not do it!” I hope we all can acknowledge that this argument is on perpetually eroding ground, at the…
Seems like a variant of the “first they came for” argument.
First they came for Google Wave, and I did not speak out—Because I never really understood what Wave was to begin with.
Then they came for Google+, and I did not speak out—Because almost all the people I want life updates from are on Facebook.
Then they came for Google Reader, and I did not speak out—Because I never actually heard of Reader until years after it was eliminated. Maybe Reader was actually first?
Then they came for Works with Nest, and I smugly said, "I told you so"—Because I always thought it was a bad idea to expose my thermostat to the internet.
Finally, they game for GMail—and I couldn't contact anyone who might speak out for me.
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#96So let's talk alternatives. EcoBee? Honeywell? What's the suggested alternate device and route for those of us that like a little control, like having other services that can integrate, and don't want to be yanked around by shutdowns?
I would recommend Ecobee but their status page has looked like a Christmas tree lately. Hours long outages, every day, for days in a row.
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#97So let's talk alternatives. EcoBee? Honeywell? What's the suggested alternate device and route for those of us that like a little control, like having other services that can integrate, and don't want to be yanked around by shutdowns?
EcoBee is what I bought when the writing was on the wall with Nest. Works with HomeKit, so EcoBee could go under tomorrow and Apple stuff can still talk to it. Or if an open solution is more to your liking, works with Home Assistant, too, though it goes through the API to work.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Look not to be blunt, but 1800 users? Why should they care? I'm being a devils advocate, but ... if you were at Google and a person making large business decisions, why would you care about 1800 users?
Vote me down all you want, but it's a valid business question.
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Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API
#99So my Nest app[1] that has 1800+ registered users will stop working in August. :'( [1] https://richev.me/nest
Look not to be blunt, but 1800 users? Why should they care? I'm being a devils advocate, but ... if you were at Google and a person making large business decisions, why would you care about 1800 users?
Developer hours going towards enriching the ecosystem at no cost to Google are gold. They’ve now alienated this dev, and produced yet another cautionary tale for anyone thinking about relying on Google.
Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API
#100I see Google API/ecosystem fans often defending or dismissing Google’s pattern of behavior here, using arguments like this: “Well, sure, they shut down that API I don’t use — big deal; all things come to an end eventually! But, they’d NEVER do that to this API I rely on — that would be so horrible, Google just would not do it!” I hope we all can acknowledge that this argument is on perpetually eroding ground, at the…
I've been considering pasting this: https://killedbygoogle.com/ every time the argument comes up. Maybe Google proponents will make one for other companies notorious for killing services, but at least for now, the Google Graveyard grows.
that site is a bit disingenuous -- it doesn't distinguish between projects that were merely upgraded/renamed/deprecated for good reason
for example, "secure google search" was "killed" but all this means is that instead of having to type "secure.google.com" to use encryption, google made HTTPS the default...
there are lots of legitimate examples so such exaggerations seem unneccessary