Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by awestley » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:52 AM UTC

I guess all my nest stuff is going ebay... Too bad.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by plttn » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:52 AM UTC

4rt wrote: post #11

headline should be "that $300 doorbell is now a paperweight". in the future it will be "that $8000 trunk car driving computer is now a paperweight".

Nest hardware will still work just fine?

I'm not sure where you're drawing the conclusion that the Nest Hello no longer works.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by jasonhansel » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:54 AM UTC

Honestly, I think that IoT manufacturers should be required to provide open APIs. Preventing third-party developers from interfacing with smart devices, especially after they've already been sold to consumers, seems dangerously monopolistic.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by quickthrower2 » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:54 AM UTC

awestley wrote: post #41

I guess all my nest stuff is going ebay... Too bad.

Sell to the greater fool?

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by rhizome » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:56 AM UTC

specialp wrote: post #20

tetrisgm wrote: post #7

What's the point of creating an ecosystem if you won't support it? Typical Google. I understand shutting down or refocusing services that don't work. But decisions like this or to shut down Inbox make no sense to me. It feels like complete disregard of the user base.

Google has done this again and again with their APIs and services other than their main search and advertising business. For me as a developer Google has a bad name now and I'd never invest my time developing something in their ecosystem or worse have my business depend on it. They do not care about their user base as is shown even when they shut down paid services. Which is why even with all their promises about Goo…

I find it funny that pointing to this state of affairs in the comments of HN posts about new Google products attracts downvotes like nobody's business.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by pugworthy » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:57 AM UTC

How many things use that API?

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by mherdeg » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:57 AM UTC

Hey, so how do I graph the temperature of my house at each temperature sensor over time?

I knew how to do that with the Nest API (see e.g. https://github.com/peterot/nest-graph or https://github.com/nbrownus/nestflux ). These data provide some useful information about energy expenditure in the house, a little better than the Nest "schedule" view of daily heating/cooling activity and daily temperature settings.

Will this still be possible with the new indirect Google Assistant API integration they are describing? How?

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by HillRat » Wed, May 08, 2019, 12:58 AM UTC

So now all Nest accounts have to go through Google. Can’t wait for the first time some Android developer gets their Google account locked and suddenly can’t change the temperature on their HVAC unit.