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Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by ucaetano »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #17
chadlavi wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They care for their user base. Their user base just isn't us people using their services.

At some point there has to be a value in marketing for keeping people happy, right? At least mothball upgrades and leave this running "slowly" or _anything_ other than just shut everything down for reasons... My daughter wrote a letter to a clothing manufacturer about how the embroidered lettering was falling apart on a brand name shirt. They sent her a new one, for free. That is good marketing. What Google is doing?…

> At some point there has to be a value in marketing for keeping people happy, right?

Not a lot of value in keeping HN people happy. We're too small of a user niche but too big of complainers.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by saagarjha »

electrograv wrote: post #38

I see Google API/ecosystem fans often defending or dismissing Google’s pattern of behavior here, using arguments like this: “Well, sure, they shut down that API I don’t use — big deal; all things come to an end eventually! But, they’d NEVER do that to this API I rely on — that would be so horrible, Google just would not do it!” I hope we all can acknowledge that this argument is on perpetually eroding ground, at the…

Seems like a variant of the “first they came for” argument.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by dreamcompiler »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #17
chadlavi wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They care for their user base. Their user base just isn't us people using their services.

At some point there has to be a value in marketing for keeping people happy, right? At least mothball upgrades and leave this running "slowly" or _anything_ other than just shut everything down for reasons... My daughter wrote a letter to a clothing manufacturer about how the embroidered lettering was falling apart on a brand name shirt. They sent her a new one, for free. That is good marketing. What Google is doing?…

That clothing manufacturer doesn't have a billion daily users who will use them regardless of how evil they are.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by saagarjha »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #13
bhhaskin wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another reminder to never buy a "smart" device. At the end of the day they are pretty dumb.

I have Wemo smart plugs that I have plugged in all sorts of stuff like Heater, Lamps, and TV, etc connected to my Google Home and Home Mini. And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. There are so many bugs creating so many complications that I feel they are not worth using. You'd need to reconnect them with WEMO app time and again, restart these frequently if they just stop work…

Wemo’s plugs support other protocols too, don’t they? Could you bridge one of those to what you need?

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by DivisionSol »

electrograv wrote: post #38

I see Google API/ecosystem fans often defending or dismissing Google’s pattern of behavior here, using arguments like this: “Well, sure, they shut down that API I don’t use — big deal; all things come to an end eventually! But, they’d NEVER do that to this API I rely on — that would be so horrible, Google just would not do it!” I hope we all can acknowledge that this argument is on perpetually eroding ground, at the…

I've been considering pasting this: https://killedbygoogle.com/ every time the argument comes up. Maybe Google proponents will make one for other companies notorious for killing services, but at least for now, the Google Graveyard grows.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by alasdair_ »

systemBuilder wrote: post #23

I am turning off my future purchases of Google Nest products.

Me too. I was literally just looking at them, since I wanted to hook up a smart thermostat with my motorized blinds (close blinds in summer when temperature is > X) and was planning on buying one this month, but no longer.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by caterama »

Disclaimer: I own no Smart Home devices.

Under the FAQ, I was not able to find an entry like "Will I be able to reach a human about my Nest devices / services?". That's a bit scary. Not sure if that was possible before though. But, considering the occasional horror story of what happens when you get locked out of a Google account, I wonder what the impact will be having a Nest integrated with that.

Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API

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Post by Rebelgecko »

plttn wrote: post #42
4rt wrote: post #11

headline should be "that $300 doorbell is now a paperweight". in the future it will be "that $8000 trunk car driving computer is now a paperweight".

Nest hardware will still work just fine? I'm not sure where you're drawing the conclusion that the Nest Hello no longer works.

Not sure about the "Hello" but this sucks for people that take advantage of their thermostat API. The hardware still works but the way I use it won't any more.
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