Repeating my comment from the last discussion: This whole thing is an offshoot of antinuclear FUD. If civilization collapses to the point where people no longer realize that radiation is dangerous, then so many people have already died that a few more people dying early from radiation is just background noise. In addition, knowing human nature and our propensity for conspiracy theories, there will be people in the fu…
> In addition, knowing human nature and our propensity for conspiracy theories, there will be people in the future who think all those signs were put there to dissuade people from finding a massive buried treasure. After all, the phrasing is pretty much what you would expect if someone had buried a treasure and wanted to scare people from digging for it. I have to agree with this. What if in 1955 America we had disco…
This Place Is Not a Place of Honor (1992)
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#63I’m reminded of this big red sign I saw in a men’s room, just above a big red button: “ATTENTION DO NOT PUSH RED BUTTON UNLESS IT IS AN EMERGENCY” It took every ounce of my will power not to push the damn button. https://i.imgur.com/xnfVpOh.jpg
“Some humans would do anything to see if it was possible to do it. If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.” -- Terry Pratchett
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#64I've actually thought about this quite a lot. Not because I have an expertise in the matter--I don't. But because it's such a fascinating thought experiment. My proposed solution goes something like this: It is hard to convey that there is nothing of value and only danger within. So what if you just made the site actually dangerous on the surface? Is it possible to build something like a lake of acid that would make…
Given enough time, literally anything that indicates the slightest bit of "don't go in here" will make someone ask "why go to the trouble if it isn't valuable? I'm pretty sure the only way to keep people out is to hide it.
The solution is simple in my view. Just make it dangerous enough that they can't get it no matter how much they would want to loot it. And if they can outsmart the dangers we face them with they must be smart enough to figure out how to deal with the radio activity.
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#65Personally, this seems a more interesting experiment from the perspective of language and communication, and only incidentally about the risks of nuclear pollution.
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#66I feel like there's something to think about here since we couldn't even keep the page with this information active for a decade and the goal is to keep the actual warning around for 10,000 years.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why so much work into storing genealogical records?
Mormon belief is that baptism is one of the few strict requirement for entry into Heaven, but that it can also be performed for the dead by volunteer proxies. Even the most obstinate sinners and nonbelievers will gain entry into the lowest-but-still-pleasant level of Heaven if they haven't committed the unpardonable sin[1]... so long as they've been baptized, in person or by proxy. Combine those premises and it becom…
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#68https://prod-ng.sandia.gov/techlib-noauth/access-control.cgi...
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given enough time, literally anything that indicates the slightest bit of "don't go in here" will make someone ask "why go to the trouble if it isn't valuable? I'm pretty sure the only way to keep people out is to hide it.
To toot my own horn a bit, posted this exact idea in the previous thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19761577 The solution is simple in my view. Just make it dangerous enough that they can't get it no matter how much they would want to loot it. And if they can outsmart the dangers we face them with they must be smart enough to figure out how to deal with the radio activity.
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#70I feel like there's something to think about here since we couldn't even keep the page with this information active for a decade and the goal is to keep the actual warning around for 10,000 years.
Finland already created their first long term nuclear waste storage facility. They must have some symbology up - what do they use? https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-07-31/finlands-solution-nuc...
“The idea is to more or less forget it. It’s based on passive safety,” he says. “There aren’t any plans to put any kind of warning signs or anything like that. There won’t be anything.”
Looks like Finland is taking the complete opposite approach.