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Rock’n’roll was new and cool in 1959.
Exactly. 40-year-old people mostly didn't get new and cool.
Stick horse riding is neither new nor cool in 2019.
Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls
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I'd say there's a bit of a difference between martial arts and a toy pony. I know martial artists who can break a dozen cinder bricks with an elbow; that's a serious pursuit. I'd say there is a serious difference between that and riding a toy stick. This extends to many other sports and activities: you can practice at a serious level or an amateur one. The difference here is that I see no serious level for this. Same…
As someone who has dabbled in martial arts, breaking blocks is not done by anyone serious. Thoae are all barely above stage clowing to anyone into the art. No offense to your friends, feeling powerful is valid too.
I'm not sure in which martial arts you dabbled or on which circuits; could you clarify there? Different martial arts are very different in on what they focus. Some don't really spar, some do. That doesn't make them better or worse, that means they are different styles with different foci.
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#74So as an occasional (male) rider of real horses, there's something I've always wondered about: how did the recreation become so gendered? Up until about the middle of the 20th century there was still utilitarian and military horse riding. Men would learn to ride. Now it seems to be culturally associated almost entirely with young upper-middle-class girls or middle-aged women. Is this the result of toy marketing (My L…
I would say Finland has a moderately strong horse culture. Harness racing [1] events remain popular, and using horses in low-impact landscaping and forestry has seen some resurgence [2]. Finland also has its own breed of horses, the Finnhorse [3].
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harness_racing 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hylOZ8M68iY 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnhorse
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The sentence goes on, saying unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon which might apply here.
Did you read the subtitle? " For years , a subculture of teenage hobbyhorse enthusiasts flourished under the radar."
Can we stop the jousting match here? If this were a website for teenage hobbyhorse enthusiasts I'm sure it would be old news. But it's interesting to people who haven't heard of it before. It's OK for others to like things that you don't. There will always be some of that on Hacker News and the most polite thing we can do is leave others to their enjoyment.
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#76How very strange! Rock on, you strange ones, you crazy diamonds.
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> I know martial artists who can break a dozen cinder bricks with an elbow; that's a serious pursuit. I'd say there is a serious difference between that and riding a toy stick. What difference would that be? Real-world application? No-one hires martial artists for demolition work. They're both recreational activities. Doing them well is difficult enough that your ability can be (and is) assessed competitively. Seems…
Self-defense. Know two other guys who have possibly had their lives (or at any rate, probably hospital visits) saved in street fights and muggings. There are also countless juniors who have been able to fend off bullies. It's also exercise, which has extensive and proven benefits. It also has huge benefits in terms of bone strength and density. So yes, I would say real-world application. Is it recreational in some wa…
> Self-defense. Know two other guys who have possibly had their lives (or at any rate, probably hospital visits) saved in street fights and muggings. There are also countless juniors who have been able to fend off bullies.
Some martial arts have some application to self-defense, but I don't think that's the real distinction - people don't seem to treat e.g. Naginata as a less serious martial art even though you'd never use it in practice. And many non-martial-art sports (I mentioned cycling in a parallel thread) are treated with the same seriousness.
> It's also exercise, which has extensive and proven benefits. It also has huge benefits in terms of bone strength and density.
Aren't those equally true of this hobbyhorse-dressage?
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“If someone says we are playing, it strips away everything we made, it strips away the reality,” said Ms. Aarniomaki. it looks like playing to me as well, and not sure why the community would see that as a problem. even professional sports players know they are playing a game. an interesting and unusual perspective for sure.
I find it frustrating that BDSM folk seem to have settled on "play" as the standard terminology. These activities are purely recreational, sure, but when something is a big part of your life, when you spend a lot of time and effort honing your craft and performing to the best of your ability, it feels dismissive to call it "play". I also do long-distance cycling, which is just as much of a purely recreational activit…
I'm not seeing it; Cristiano Ronaldo, Kevin Durant and Novak Djokovic all make millions playing.
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It seems boys can, they simply don't. It seems for some reason it became girly thing in Finland (like fake eye lashes, maybe) and boys avoid it. Citation from another article: """ There doesn’t seem to be that many boys riding hobbyhorses? Alisa: I think it’s quite sad, actually. It feels like boys aren’t allowed to do this thing that is considered to be a girly thing. At the same time, I think it also means we have…
I have a hard time imagine a area where boys would be allowed to have a similar community with that skewed gender ratios. The common assumption is that any gender segregation is caused by the minority being discriminated against. If competitive hobbyhorse riding officially became a sport here in Sweden it would have to follow some recent laws dictating affirmative action within the sport organization. A minimum of 40…
Software development?
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“If someone says we are playing, it strips away everything we made, it strips away the reality,” said Ms. Aarniomaki. it looks like playing to me as well, and not sure why the community would see that as a problem. even professional sports players know they are playing a game. an interesting and unusual perspective for sure.
I find it frustrating that BDSM folk seem to have settled on "play" as the standard terminology. These activities are purely recreational, sure, but when something is a big part of your life, when you spend a lot of time and effort honing your craft and performing to the best of your ability, it feels dismissive to call it "play". I also do long-distance cycling, which is just as much of a purely recreational activit…
I think this is inconsistently used across different activities and geographical regions. I'm thinking of instances where things like "lets go play in the dirt" for doing off road motorsports were common. Also very common usage for sports, people "play" some sports, "compete" in others.