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Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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Is it crazier than square dancing? Square dancing, freestyle canoe [2], cosplay, cross-stitch etc. These are all activities that people do for the sake of the activity itself without any extra motivation except maybe to be able to hang around with others. [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofq_nl366VM

In the UK, the local equivalent of square dancing might be morris dancing, and yes, people regularly mock it as a silly pursuit of weird people.

> silly pursuit of weird people.

so it's like bitcoin 'investing' before computers.

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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So as an occasional (male) rider of real horses, there's something I've always wondered about: how did the recreation become so gendered? Up until about the middle of the 20th century there was still utilitarian and military horse riding. Men would learn to ride. Now it seems to be culturally associated almost entirely with young upper-middle-class girls or middle-aged women. Is this the result of toy marketing (My L…

My UK/Scottish experience is that the only men I've known who ride regularly have either been very posh or from the Scottish Borders:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22871776

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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It makes me sad that this is a "celebration of girlhood" but boys are not even mentioned in this article. Why can't boys also practice hobbyhorse training?

>boys are not even mentioned in this article. Why can't boys also practice hobbyhorse training?

They could, but my guess is that they get more into cars. Some of the best motorsports athletes of all time (Raikonnen in F1, Makinen in rally) have come from Finland.

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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not sure why the community would see that as a problem If someone is learning martial arts, you might see that as a demanding sport, for tough serious athletes, demanding discipline, hard work and self-control. Or you might see it as playing at being Bruce Lee. Hiiii-Ya! Needless to say, the former perspective implies more respect for the people doing it! But there's not a bright line between 'serious' activities and…

I'd say there's a bit of a difference between martial arts and a toy pony. I know martial artists who can break a dozen cinder bricks with an elbow; that's a serious pursuit. I'd say there is a serious difference between that and riding a toy stick. This extends to many other sports and activities: you can practice at a serious level or an amateur one. The difference here is that I see no serious level for this. Same…

As someone who has dabbled in martial arts, breaking blocks is not done by anyone serious. Thoae are all barely above stage clowing to anyone into the art. No offense to your friends, feeling powerful is valid too.

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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HN is not topical.

Yes it is. - Per the guide-lines : "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports " - Per usage

> If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

That seems to apply here.

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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It seems boys can, they simply don't. It seems for some reason it became girly thing in Finland (like fake eye lashes, maybe) and boys avoid it. Citation from another article: """ There doesn’t seem to be that many boys riding hobbyhorses? Alisa: I think it’s quite sad, actually. It feels like boys aren’t allowed to do this thing that is considered to be a girly thing. At the same time, I think it also means we have…

I have a hard time imagine a area where boys would be allowed to have a similar community with that skewed gender ratios. The common assumption is that any gender segregation is caused by the minority being discriminated against. If competitive hobbyhorse riding officially became a sport here in Sweden it would have to follow some recent laws dictating affirmative action within the sport organization. A minimum of 40…

So if 40% of boys were not interested, it would be denied to girls? That seems noble in intent, but draconian in application.

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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If you don't like it, just downvote it instead of trying to appeal to a higher power. It's a democracy, not your personal curated news list.

How do you downvote a submission?

By moving on with your day.

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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So as an occasional (male) rider of real horses, there's something I've always wondered about: how did the recreation become so gendered? Up until about the middle of the 20th century there was still utilitarian and military horse riding. Men would learn to ride. Now it seems to be culturally associated almost entirely with young upper-middle-class girls or middle-aged women. Is this the result of toy marketing (My L…

> What interests me about this Finnish subculture is that it's perfectly cloned the "horse culture", just without any actual horses. It's very close to a cargo cult. Possibly Finland is too cold to have a regular horse culture?

There is a horse culture in Finland, and as you said, it's heavily associated with teenage girls. Horses are of course quite an expensive anf time-consuming hobby by definition, so I'm sure the affordability plays some role here too.

Re: Finland’s Hobbyhorse Girls

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Yes it is. - Per the guide-lines : "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports " - Per usage

The sentence goes on, saying unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon which might apply here.

Did you read the subtitle?

"For years, a subculture of teenage hobbyhorse enthusiasts flourished under the radar."

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