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In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Unfortunately, the population accepted a gun ban back in 2012.

As long as the military continues to support the government, an armed population cannot not successfully force Maduro out. There are also many Venezuelan civilians who still support the regime. These people would presumably also have guns.

this goes against every revolution in the history books.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

#62

Invade and keep the oil. The Venezuelan people get to live in a decent country and whoever invaded gets rewarded. Sure the military is on maduros side because he is the one that (barely) feeds them but an organization/government that is well financially supported would have no problems changing their hearts with a little more cash on the table.. this needs to be seen as an opportunity more than it is a crisis

Where has this worked out, historically?

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

#64

Invade and keep the oil. The Venezuelan people get to live in a decent country and whoever invaded gets rewarded. Sure the military is on maduros side because he is the one that (barely) feeds them but an organization/government that is well financially supported would have no problems changing their hearts with a little more cash on the table.. this needs to be seen as an opportunity more than it is a crisis

This would go exactly as well as it did in Vietnam and Iraq: The Venezuelan people would slaughter the invading imperialists until they gave up and went home.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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post #61

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As long as the military continues to support the government, an armed population cannot not successfully force Maduro out. There are also many Venezuelan civilians who still support the regime. These people would presumably also have guns.

this goes against every revolution in the history books.

Even the unsuccessful?

Or the successful ones that just lead to another autocracy?

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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How is it that, no matter what, people will always find a way to blame the US? I think in this case, the country just ran itself to the ground.

Please read more about the history of US involvement in Central and South America.

history requires interpretation, easier to be an ideologue

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

#68
post #13

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> I also see worse images of greater desperation coming from Los Angeles, San Francisco I...don't really think you do, no.

By your snipping Puerto Rico, I presume you agree with that one. Let us move then to LA. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Typhus-Epidemic-Wor... https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-homeless-toilet... http://time.com/3681883/los-angeles-homeless-camps/ San Francisco: https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/02/20/san... https://townhall.com/tipsheet/alexnitzberg/2018/02/21/cesspo...

Being homeless in the United States is preferable to having a residence in many parts of the world. Even sleeping on the streets, you're surrounded by a ton of infrastructure that many countries don't have the benefit of.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Getting a lot of downvotes for this comment, but could someone please explain where I'm going wrong? A lot of people think the way I do, so it would be helpful to explain. A country with a bright future just a couple decades ago experienced a truly remarkable decline after a socialist was elected. I'm sure there are other factors, but surely this is going to be seen as yet another failure of socialism. Whether this i…

I think you pushed enough buttons and simplified the issues enough that people who disagreed with you downvoted you. No big deal...

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Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

#70

venezuela is under economic attack, see http://www.socialistviewpoint.org/marapr_19/marapr_19_05.htm... that centralized planning doesnt work is just wrong :) look to walmart and amazon as examples of efficient central planning. https://www.versobooks.com/books/2822-the-people-s-republic-...

You cannot possibly compare central planning as a reaction to the free-market (walmart and amazon) to the central planning of an entire nation's economic output / consumption.

That is so intellectually dishonest, I'm actually speechless.

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