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In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Life in Venezuela would improve dramatically if the US quit diverting all money going in and out of the country.

How is it that, no matter what, people will always find a way to blame the US? I think in this case, the country just ran itself to the ground.

Please read more about the history of US involvement in Central and South America.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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post #32

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By your snipping Puerto Rico, I presume you agree with that one. Let us move then to LA. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Typhus-Epidemic-Wor... https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-homeless-toilet... http://time.com/3681883/los-angeles-homeless-camps/ San Francisco: https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/02/20/san... https://townhall.com/tipsheet/alexnitzberg/2018/02/21/cesspo...

> By your snipping Puerto Rico, I presume you agree with that one. Absolutely not; I'm just less familiar with it, and so less able to judge arguments about it. As for your links, that's not remotely on the same scale as what's being discussed in Venezuela. You need some perspective.

Please tell me about the typhus epidemic in Venezuela.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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venezuela is under economic attack, see http://www.socialistviewpoint.org/marapr_19/marapr_19_05.htm...

that centralized planning doesnt work is just wrong :) look to walmart and amazon as examples of efficient central planning. https://www.versobooks.com/books/2822-the-people-s-republic-...

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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post #24

The world could always halt sanctions: the source of the problems.

The Venezuelan government destroyed the economy. On top of that, the government is using military force to prevent foreign aid from entering the country.

Sanctions make things a little bit worse, and they make Maduro's claims that outside forces are to blame for Venezuela's problems seem more convincing. (Sanctions have the same propaganda effect in North Korea).

But in any case, it is pretty clear that the Venezuelan government's mismanagement of the economy has been the primary factor for almost 20 years: Chavez was first elected in 1999 and the problems began under his leadership.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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post #12

Unfortunately, the population accepted a gun ban back in 2012.

There is a lot more that the population accepted, it's not just the gun ban. Venezuela is the right-winger's nightmare scenario, basically where politicians got elected on left wing promises and then switched to being completely corrupt. The gun ban is just one element of their total coverage of every single American right wing fear. Honestly at this point the biggest reason why someone in America might oppose govern…

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Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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post #28

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It's not always that easy. Look at what's going on in the US right now for example...

The US political situation is not even remotely comparable, ignoring the plundering of the economy by the government and military, in 2020 or by 2024 at the latest, the US WILL have a different president. Absolutely and without a shadow of a doubt.

Presidents are inaugurated the year after the election, so ‘21 or ‘25.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Getting a lot of downvotes for this comment, but could someone please explain where I'm going wrong? A lot of people think the way I do, so it would be helpful to explain. A country with a bright future just a couple decades ago experienced a truly remarkable decline after a socialist was elected. I'm sure there are other factors, but surely this is going to be seen as yet another failure of socialism. Whether this i…

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Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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post #34

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> I am positive I have traveled to and lived in far more countries than you have, so do not assume anything about what I have seen. How could you possibly know how much I have travelled? Edit: According to parent I am neither well travelled, but also have little experience and have poor social skills :) But at least I really enjoyed the time I spent living and working in SF and would choose it, and LA or PR, every ti…

You stated you knew how much I have traveled and were tremendously massively totally wrong. This indicates you have a lack of knowledge and engage in much wrongful speculation, indicators of a person with limited experience and social skills.

Have you been to Venezuela lately, such that you have seen how SF/LA in general is comparable to what Venezuelans in general are suffering?

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Getting a lot of downvotes for this comment, but could someone please explain where I'm going wrong? A lot of people think the way I do, so it would be helpful to explain. A country with a bright future just a couple decades ago experienced a truly remarkable decline after a socialist was elected. I'm sure there are other factors, but surely this is going to be seen as yet another failure of socialism. Whether this i…

I think you pushed enough buttons and simplified the issues enough that people who disagreed with you downvoted you. No big deal...
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