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In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Post by jeffdavis »

jeffdavis wrote: post #8

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Getting a lot of downvotes for this comment, but could someone please explain where I'm going wrong? A lot of people think the way I do, so it would be helpful to explain.

A country with a bright future just a couple decades ago experienced a truly remarkable decline after a socialist was elected. I'm sure there are other factors, but surely this is going to be seen as yet another failure of socialism.

Whether this is because the socialism was not "implemented correctly" or not, clearly the socialist label has been used by a number of very bad people as a way to accumulate more power.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Post by Lazare »

droithomme wrote: post #21
Lazare wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also see worse images of greater desperation coming from Los Angeles, San Francisco I...don't really think you do, no.

By your snipping Puerto Rico, I presume you agree with that one. Let us move then to LA. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Typhus-Epidemic-Wor... https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-homeless-toilet... http://time.com/3681883/los-angeles-homeless-camps/ San Francisco: https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2018/02/20/san... https://townhall.com/tipsheet/alexnitzberg/2018/02/21/cesspo...

> By your snipping Puerto Rico, I presume you agree with that one.

Absolutely not; I'm just less familiar with it, and so less able to judge arguments about it.

As for your links, that's not remotely on the same scale as what's being discussed in Venezuela.

You need some perspective.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Post by steve19 »

droithomme wrote: post #26
steve19 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't have seen much of the world. I have not seen Venezuela first hand, but I have seen many, many places a lot worse than LA, SF and Puerto Rico.

> I have seen many, many places a lot worse Where did I mention the rest of the world? I am comparing the suffering of people in Venezuela to the suffering of people in a number of parts of the US. > You can't have seen much of the world. I am positive I have traveled to and lived in far more countries than you have, so do not assume anything about what I have seen. It's true that I have not seen "much" of the totali…

> I am positive I have traveled to and lived in far more countries than you have, so do not assume anything about what I have seen.

How could you possibly know how much I have travelled?

Edit: According to parent I am neither well travelled, but also have little experience and have poor social skills :)

But at least I really enjoyed the time I spent living and working in SF and would choose it, and LA or PR, every time over Venezuela!

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Post by khrbrt »

googlemike wrote: post #10
SampleBourgeois wrote: post #4

Life in Venezuela would improve dramatically if the US quit diverting all money going in and out of the country.

How is it that, no matter what, people will always find a way to blame the US? I think in this case, the country just ran itself to the ground.

The U.S. is imposing sanctions on Venezuela, to the effect of millions of dollars a day lost. As part of the sanctions, the U.S. has also seized hundreds of millions of dollars of Venezuelan assets in foreign bank accounts. There is a direct cause and affect between U.S. policy and life in Venezuela.

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Post by twblalock »

jmpman wrote: post #12

Unfortunately, the population accepted a gun ban back in 2012.

As long as the military continues to support the government, an armed population cannot not successfully force Maduro out.

There are also many Venezuelan civilians who still support the regime. These people would presumably also have guns.

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Post by EdSharkey »

mdgrech23 wrote: post #16
lifehacked wrote: post #2

How do their "leaders" still have their heads?

It's not always that easy. Look at what's going on in the US right now for example...

Apples to oranges comparison, US citizens still have their freedoms.

Some people are just irritated in the US because politics and because the deep state is losing its grip.

Americans are not dying from starvation or being gunned down by the military for protesting the government.

Re: In Venezuela, life has gone from bad to worse. And the world has quit noticing

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Post by droithomme »

steve19 wrote: post #34
droithomme wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have seen many, many places a lot worse Where did I mention the rest of the world? I am comparing the suffering of people in Venezuela to the suffering of people in a number of parts of the US. > You can't have seen much of the world. I am positive I have traveled to and lived in far more countries than you have, so do not assume anything about what I have seen. It's true that I have not seen "much" of the totali…

> I am positive I have traveled to and lived in far more countries than you have, so do not assume anything about what I have seen. How could you possibly know how much I have travelled? Edit: According to parent I am neither well travelled, but also have little experience and have poor social skills :) But at least I really enjoyed the time I spent living and working in SF and would choose it, and LA or PR, every ti…

You stated you knew how much I have traveled and were tremendously massively totally wrong. This indicates you have a lack of knowledge and engage in much wrongful speculation, indicators of a person with limited experience and social skills.
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