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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by cubano »

mikeyouse wrote: post #730
cubano wrote: post #644

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I had a friend once who did 18 months Federal time for just saying he could get 100 tabs of LSD at a forest rave in central Florida. Not having it...not getting any...not even showing the undercover agent even one damn tab. His charge ended up being "Conspiracy Against the United States" or something along those lines. So I am pretty sure the US government will come up with some rather bogus charge against Assange, c…

It's very unlikely that the facts resemble anything like that. What's your friends name? I'll happily pay the Pacer fees to see what the charging document says.

DEAL...you know what...im tired of people here thinking im making things up...hmmm how do you want to start doing this..

I'm serious here...let's do this...how to best initiate what we need to get rolling?

Please...email me at lampdeveloperforhire@yahoo.com and I will HAPPILY let you see it all, because I've already researched it years ago when I didn't believe that was the whole story!

The deal was...the rave scene was really big in Central Florida in the mid 90's, and a Federal Task Force was sent to infiltrate the "scene" and start busting it up..my homeboy Mike was a hustler, pure and simple, and was always ready to make some money in the game.

There was a big outside event in the Ocala National Forest and Mikey was approached by someone who was asking about LSD (100 or 1000 hits I don't remember...probably 1000 now that I think about it)...Mike was like, as in character..."No not now, but I can tomorrow for sure.." and gave the agent his number.

The rest of the details for me are fuzzy at this point, but I do know he never got any drugs and he most DEFINITELY did 18 months cushy Fed Time with a "Conspiracy Against the United States of America" charge that you can STILL see with an inexpensive background check!!

Oh...i can't wait to see your reaction when you learn the facts of this case...in fact, how about a little side wager on it?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by cubano »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #745
mikeyouse wrote: post #730

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It's very unlikely that the facts resemble anything like that. What's your friends name? I'll happily pay the Pacer fees to see what the charging document says.

Agreed, sounds like the friend agreed to sell 100 tabs. Whether or not you actually sell them doesn't matter, I think making the offer to an agent is probably illegal in the same way it's illegal to offer to murder someone for money.

DEAL...you know what...im tired of people here thinking im making things up...hmmm how do you want to start doing this.. I'm serious here...let's do this...how to best initiate what we need to get rolling?

Please...email me at lampdeveloperforhire@yahoo.com and I will HAPPILY let you see it all, because I've already researched it years ago when I didn't believe that was the whole story!

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by cubano »

sigi45 wrote: post #793
whamlastxmas wrote: post #745

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Agreed, sounds like the friend agreed to sell 100 tabs. Whether or not you actually sell them doesn't matter, I think making the offer to an agent is probably illegal in the same way it's illegal to offer to murder someone for money.

I can't imagine that this is a true story. Which country is throwing someone into jail for 1,5 years for offering to sell someone lsd?

DEAL...you know what...im tired of people here thinking im making things up...hmmm how do you want to start doing this.. I'm serious here...let's do this...how to best initiate what we need to get rolling?

Please...email me at lampdeveloperforhire@yahoo.com and I will HAPPILY let you see it all, because I've already researched it years ago when I didn't believe that was the whole story!

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by cubano »

mikeyouse wrote: post #815
freedomben wrote: post #803

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Not OP, but if it were my friend (and if I was any kind of friend at all) I wouldn't be dropping his name on a publicly accessible forum so a ton of people can violate his privacy. Might be better to privately exchange the name and then update us with the results without revealing any identity.

Of course, happy to take it via DM and I'd be glad to report back without any identifying information.

I am now ACTIVELY trying to get your attention to get this moving, as I feel you are challenging my integrity and this is very important to me.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by dang »

goodroot wrote: post #903

I am sad for two reasons. 1: He tried to make the world better by exposing American tyranny. 2: The timing and vigour of the waves of paid shills is chilling. This place is not a place for free and open discussion. The sophistication of narrative control has won, and we need to solve the problem.

Please don't break the site guidelines by making insinuations of astroturfing or shillage when you have no evidence for this. The presence of opposing opinions is evidence of nothing except that a topic is divisive. Meanwhile such accusations and insinuations damage the container here, and are off topic besides.

I've written a ton about this if you or anyone wants more information. See the links at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19538691.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by ben_w »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #982
ben_w wrote: post #529

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The ease by which the US can extradite him from the UK is precisely why I thought poorly of the claim that he felt his life was endangered by going to Sweden .

You're missing the point. Sweden would have been unable to protect him. Intelligence agencies do not just follow one plan, they have a whole bundle of contingencies ready for execution in case a politician wants to hear some options. Of course, his life would have been endangered if he had been extradited to Sweden. People in the US administration were openly calling for his assassination in public TV interviews.

How does that differ from the current situation in the UK?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by hyperdunc »

Traster wrote: post #640
hyperdunc wrote: post #342

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The fact that material existed in the first place is solely the fault of the candidate.

Firstly, there is not one campaign that's existed since 2000 that won't have had atleast a few campaign staffers with embarrassing emails. Secondly, the issue isn't only about the clear co-ordination with a hostile foreign state, it's that rather than abiding by Assange's own claimed values, he kept the data private and then leaked it over a political campaign to try and cause political damage. That's nothing to do w…

My point is that he had something to leak in the first place. Blaming Assange is shooting the messenger. Also, we don't know for sure a foreign power was involved - that partisan conjecture.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by CryptoPunk »

cc439 wrote: post #971
CryptoPunk wrote: post #794

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Do you really need to put "neoliberal" in front of oligarch? It imparts on them a commitment to principles that they don't uphold. This is a government that undermines core liberal values like private property rights and privacy rights, with a multitude of financial regulations, surveillance state anti-money-laundering laws, and prohibitions on unrestricted use of encrypted communication.

>This is a government that undermines core liberal values like private property rights and privacy rights, with a multitude of financial regulations, surveillance state anti-money-laundering laws, and prohibitions on unrestricted use of encrypted communication. That's the "neo" part of "neo-liberal".

But "neoliberalism" is frequently derided as a free-market fundamentalist ideology that was the driving force behind a period of alleged deregulation and government cut-backs extending from the early 1980s to the present. It's really an inaccurate characterization of both the last 40 years and the beliefs of the parties in charge.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by ShorsHammer »

SXX wrote: post #811
ShorsHammer wrote: post #753

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When has that complicated anything? Being a dual citizen is a huge benefit everywhere on Earth. For anyone with enough resources and time I'd encourage collecting citizenships like they were Pokemon.

> For anyone with enough resources and time I'd encourage collecting citizenships like they were Pokemon. Care to elaborate? What kind of benefits one could get out of it? There's tons of information on topic from biased sources like law firms, but very little otherwise.

Generally being able to customize the terms of your travel, being able to permanently leave your home country, somewhat being able to choose tax jurisdiction, consular support from multiple sources if things go pearshaped.

Older people probably value choosing favourable healthcare systems too. Nations aren't static entities, I'd doubt you'd find many people willing to bet on a single country's circumstance being exactly the same 30 years from now.

For the wealthy gaining dual/multi citizenship is common across the world and plenty of Western nations sell it off willingly.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by garmaine »

hopler wrote: post #386
garmaine wrote: post #164

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The state prosecutor accused him of being a rapist. The alleged victim didn't accuse him of anything and only went to the police in an attempt to contact him to tell him to be tested for STDs since the condom broke. The state prosecutor found a way to twist that into a rape charge under Sweden's laws, even though the purported victim disagreed. Those charges were later dropped. The only "crime" he committed was refus…

Are you claiming that the police report is false or the Guardian is mistaken? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange...

The Guardian was mistaken, according to the alleged victim's own statements at the time.
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