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> URGENT: Ecuador has illegally terminated Assange political asylum in violation of international law. He was arrested by the British police inside the Ecuadorian embassy minutes ago. Source: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116273826621480960 Holy moly, this will be interesting! EDIT: If you're interested, here's a video of him being escorted out of the embassy -- https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/111628109…

>Snowden advising journalists to cover the story with authentic facts

>retweets Russia Today and Cassandra Fairbanks

I can't believe people still defend this guy.

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I wonder if the WikiLeaks "Dead Man's Switch" will be triggered this time? I know there were some news articles in the last couple of years of this being the case...

The entire concept of a dead man's switch doesn't even make sense when you think about it. Say you have some embarrassing docs about the CIA/military and you threaten to release them automatically if you're killed. Have you considered that there are plenty of people in the world who would want that to happen? People with lots of money and their own highly trained murderers? Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, North…

But what if the "insurance" files contained some dirt on every organization that might get close enough to Assange to kill him?

That way it would make sense for everyone to see to it that the files stay hidden.

Like Mutually Assured Destruction.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I am sad for two reasons.

1: He tried to make the world better by exposing American tyranny.

2: The timing and vigour of the waves of paid shills is chilling. This place is not a place for free and open discussion. The sophistication of narrative control has won, and we need to solve the problem.

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> For anyone with enough resources and time I'd encourage collecting citizenships like they were Pokemon. Care to elaborate? What kind of benefits one could get out of it? There's tons of information on topic from biased sources like law firms, but very little otherwise.

Except in most countries you can't have more than 2 or 3 official nationalities

Well, technically any country that accepts a doubly nationality accepts a plurality - you simply don't inform all the other countries of your other nationalities.

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Grand Juries have a very high indict rate, especially federal ones, but there’s arguments about why that is. One argument is obviously that grand juries are pushovers and indeed would literally indict a ham sandwich. The other argument, hinted above, is that prosecutors only move to indict if they think they have a chance to win at trial. Since the evidentiary standards are much higher for conviction, that means they…

It's not just that they're pushovers, it's a completely one-sided affair. They only hear from the prosecution (the defendant is not present, let alone granted legal representation) and the prosecution is allowed extensive leeway in attempting to gain the indictment including offering evidence that would not be allowed in trial, such as hearsay [1]. And whether a case can be won or not at trial is a secondary consider…

If you want to reduce the rate of arrests in the United States, we need to change the culture around the fetishization of punishment. The belief that those in jail "deserve" everything they get, including inhumane treatment, drives all that is ill with our criminal justice system. Adjusting how plea bargains work might help and might not, but we need to start changing culture first.

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WikiLeaks released the personal information of my colleagues and myself. So much for sticking it to the man, when we have to live the rest of our lives with the risk of identity fraud just because they're dicks.

When and why did they release your personal information?

He worked with Sony at the time of the leak, which Wikileaks published.

It was disturbingly easy to find tbh

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The one about the CIA arresting or disappearing a man living in an Ecuadorian embassy in the center of London is interesting. Seems to imply the US can basically do anything anywhere and will if they want to, and really ignores the huge international fiasco from incredibly recently in the Khashoggi case. I like the think the people manning our intelligence agencies are a fair bit better than that personally. Although…

My comment was referring to the 1.5 years Assange lived openly in London, while Sweden was trying to get him extradited. I don't believe they'd storm an embassy to get him, but a couple of men grabbing him from off the street wouldn't be too out of character.

> a couple of men grabbing him from off the street wouldn't be too out of character.

It probably would be out of character for them to do that in one of their 5-eyes partner's countries. Keeping that relationship is high priority for the US because they get tons of intelligence in return.

Plus kidnapping a 'terrorist' and kidnapping a 'journalist' (air-quotes for both) are two different things in how the world will respond. The outcry over the Italian terrorist kidnapping was pretty small but taking Assange off the streets of London would be huge.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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RIP. It's only a matter of time before he's extradited, and I would think the current US government would definitely push for the death penalty under the Espionage Act. I suppose it's little solace that he'll join a long list of illustrious names prosecuted under that infamous act. (Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, Victor Berger, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden)

That is highly unlikely due to precedent of the '60s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_the_Unit...

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