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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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You're basing this on what? St. Mueller has finished his investigation, and precisely no one will be going to prison for "Russian election meddling". If they didn't do this horrible thing (that is entirely protected by 1A), then how could anyone have helped them do this horrible thing?

Ummmm Mueller indicted many Russian nationals.

Yes, but none of the charges are related to conspiracy with the Russian government.

There are only a handful of conspiracy against the US charges, and they are all related to Ukrainian interests long before the 2016 election (which were related to pro-US Ukrainian interests).

So yes, there are many Mueller indictments, but they do not fit the (now discredited) Russia-Gate narrative. Yes, Trump is surrounded by all kinds of criminals (and almost certainly is one himself) but this should be a shock to nobody -- he hired people directly related to mafias in several countries.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I still don't understand how he is subject to U.S. rule of law if he: a) Isn't a U.S. citizen b) Not residing in the U.S.

They say "federal charge of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified US government computer"

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I had a friend once who did 18 months Federal time for just saying he could get 100 tabs of LSD at a forest rave in central Florida. Not having it...not getting any...not even showing the undercover agent even one damn tab. His charge ended up being "Conspiracy Against the United States" or something along those lines. So I am pretty sure the US government will come up with some rather bogus charge against Assange, c…

It's very unlikely that the facts resemble anything like that. What's your friends name? I'll happily pay the Pacer fees to see what the charging document says.

Agreed, sounds like the friend agreed to sell 100 tabs. Whether or not you actually sell them doesn't matter, I think making the offer to an agent is probably illegal in the same way it's illegal to offer to murder someone for money.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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>It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. Scotland Yard has confirmed that Assange was arrested on behalf of the US after receiving a request for his extradition. https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2019/apr/11/wikileaks... Edit: Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charg...

For those who prefer the original source: http://news.met.police.uk/news/update-arrest-of-julian-assan...

The actual indictment:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481...

Snowden: The weakness of the US charge against Assange is shocking. The allegation he tried (and failed?) to help crack a password during their world-famous reporting has been public for nearly a decade: it is the count Obama's DOJ refused to charge, saying it endangered journalism.

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1116336550873317377

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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In both cases, it would be in US' national interests to put the long term consequences before the short term gains.

Long term consequences as 'preventing other secrets from being leaked' or 'maintaining an image as a trustworthy and ethical actor' on the world stage?

I mean, if you don't let your government gas civilians, it's not like there's anything there worth leaking.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I wish Australia would step up and actually defend one of their citizens.

Australia is run by a bunch of corrupt neoliberal oligarchs burning the place to the ground on the way out the door They have "better" things to do than worry about some "peasant". Like their six figure pensions and lobbying deals

Is there a country who's citizens don't think their government is corrupt?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Any possible relation to the arrest of Assange? IMF board approves $4.2 bln financing deal with Ecuador March 11 (Reuters) - The International Monetary Fund’s executive board approved the $4.2 billion financing deal with Ecuador https://www.reuters.com/article/ecuador-imf/imf-board-approv...

Trump is famous for requesting things to "make the deal easier" and then proceeding to ask for even more. So quite possibly Ecuador is going to be finding out fairly soon about additional things they need to do to get those loans.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Considering Assange is not a US citizen, how could their be ground for an extradition to the US? This doesn't sound right

It depends on the extradition treaty and the delivering country's law. Technically the US doesn't extradite people to the US, other states extradite people to the US upon their request in accordance to an extradition treaty.

The UK courts are still yet to decide whether there is a legal basis to extradite Assange. For example, the extradition of Lauri Love was denied by the court, which was also for computer related crimes allegedly carried out outside of US territory.

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