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Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Can't wait until reddit decides to ban porn as advertiser-unfriendly, à la tumblr. They're heading steadfast in the direction of sanitizing the site until it's nothing but gifs of puppies yawning.

There's something heartwarming about 4chan remaining committed to being absolute cancer.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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/r/Piracy owners deserve it. They should've considered such a possibility before allowing their community to grow on a platform they do not control. So they are not "victims", just a bit inconsiderate. And there is no reason to blame reddit, or anyone, for the deletion. They are not obliged to provide their service to anyone.

I don't go on /r/Piracy, but from my understanding there were already rules in place, and heavily enforced, about not linking to infringing content, and it was supposed to be just a place to discuss piracy. How is simple discussion of a topic infringing at all? How did they deserve this purge?

It's exactly this attitude that has a chilling effect on all speech, no matter the subject. You should be ashamed.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #58

It seems like rights holders have realized that carpet bombing is a cheap and "effective" strategy. There are reports ( https://youtu.be/JwG0bQ7WC3c ) of music copyright holders reporting the use of even a single chord in YouTube videos. This strategy appears to be having a chilling effect across multiple platforms. Copyright claims are super easy to make at scale, but the platforms themselves cannot investigate at s…

Good. The more damage copyright holders do to the public, the more people understand why the idea of owning ideas is stupid.

This is a common misunderstanding. Copyright does not allow you to own an idea -- there is nothing in the law to allow that. Instead it gives you a right to copy something. Specifically, it gives you an exclusive right. When people talk about "intellectual property" the are referring to owning rights with respect to some intellectual concept, not owning the intellectual concept itself. The very common confusion that you seem to suffer from is the reason why the FSF has previously recommended that people don't use the term "intellectual property" -- because it is very misleading.

I could rephrase your statement as "...the more people understand why the idea of granting exclusive rights to an intellectual concept is stupid". I suspect it doesn't materially change your feeling on the subject, but it's important to discuss these things as they really are, or else people will just dismiss your argument without thinking about it.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene. > If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The book pirating scene is poor though. Outside of YA best-sellers and the usual K. Dick and Pratchett there isn't much to pirate if you are into anything not completely maintstream.

You have plenty of private boards with absolutely everything you want.

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Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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It seems like rights holders have realized that carpet bombing is a cheap and "effective" strategy. There are reports ( https://youtu.be/JwG0bQ7WC3c ) of music copyright holders reporting the use of even a single chord in YouTube videos. This strategy appears to be having a chilling effect across multiple platforms. Copyright claims are super easy to make at scale, but the platforms themselves cannot investigate at s…

After the new EU copyright directive passed parliament, I went on a bit of a hunt for reasons. Outside Germany, we simply didn't get traction for protest. And one reason people gave was "it won't be enforcable anyhow".

This here clearly shows what Germans have known for years thanks to our stupid "Abmahnwesen" legal abnormality: enforcement is not the bottleneck when private entities sue other private entities. It won't be a Hadopi-style government institution petitioning $youtube to take down any videos at the threat of a mild fine. It will be $sony suing the crap out of $youtube with the prospect of millions and millions in reparations. There is zero reason to believe they will be anything less than maximally-aggressive in doing so, and so they will provide all the incentive $youtube needs to block everything that has a hint of a smell of copyrighted material.

And bear in mind, the EU regulation defines $youtube in a way that potentially includes most small forum operators, virtually every community built by a small corporation etc. And there's equally no reason to believe those will be spared by the copyright industry and their lawyers.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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It seems like rights holders have realized that carpet bombing is a cheap and "effective" strategy. There are reports ( https://youtu.be/JwG0bQ7WC3c ) of music copyright holders reporting the use of even a single chord in YouTube videos. This strategy appears to be having a chilling effect across multiple platforms. Copyright claims are super easy to make at scale, but the platforms themselves cannot investigate at s…

There seriously should be a law against such "carpet bombing".

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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How is Reddit’s crackdown on piracy-mentioning posts going to affect r/Scholar? That’s a subreddit where the guidelines clearly point people to Sci-Hub and Libgen, and if the desired content is not there, people are encouraged to supply that content to those who request it. r/Scholar is very popular in the academic world, especially in countries like India where institutions often lack subscriptions to publication-hosting databases, and I can imagine great disappointment if that subreddit were shut down.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene. > If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The book pirating scene is poor though. Outside of YA best-sellers and the usual K. Dick and Pratchett there isn't much to pirate if you are into anything not completely maintstream.

You have plenty of private boards with absolutely everything you want.

They don't have the book I am currently reading (or any from that publisher), Die Wand/The wall from Marlen Haushofer - french translation, though but I'd be glad to be proven wrong.

Mind you this is the kind of book I buy, even in ePub format.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #61

Can't wait until reddit decides to ban porn as advertiser-unfriendly, à la tumblr. They're heading steadfast in the direction of sanitizing the site until it's nothing but gifs of puppies yawning.

There's something heartwarming about 4chan remaining committed to being absolute cancer.

Even they've gone down that route. 4chan's been split into two domains with the NSFW boards on the original and the SFW boards (or as safe as 4chan ever gets) on the other.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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How is Reddit’s crackdown on piracy-mentioning posts going to affect r/Scholar? That’s a subreddit where the guidelines clearly point people to Sci-Hub and Libgen, and if the desired content is not there, people are encouraged to supply that content to those who request it. r/Scholar is very popular in the academic world, especially in countries like India where institutions often lack subscriptions to publication-ho…

Dunno man, but I hope it survives. Even if it is banned, maybe it'll pop up as a different community elsewhere?
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