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Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by johnchristopher »

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #18
Asooka wrote: post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene. If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The more we barricade our works into locked off walled gardens the more likely we are to lose them. The music piracy scene is a large reason why a lot of music is still around today. Bands and Artists…

> This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene.

> If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture.

The book pirating scene is poor though. Outside of YA best-sellers and the usual K. Dick and Pratchett there isn't much to pirate if you are into anything not completely maintstream.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by seszett »

_pmf_ wrote: post #19
anonymouswacker wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

> Reddit was a nice idea, but it just got too big. Funny how that wasn't a problem until the Bad Orange Man won. Surely just a coincidence.

If you're suggesting that Donald Trump has some connection with the bans of controversial subreddits I think you're wrong, since the one big ban of fatpeoplehate, shitniggerssay and a few other controversial subreddits happened in 2015, a full year before Donald Trump's election.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by 0815test »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #15
Asooka wrote: post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

People passionate about something are much more responsible than actual legal rights holders. Rights holders only do the absolute minimum to preserve the culture they own, countless movies available in the commercial space are the worst quality versions of those movies and people passionate about those movies will go as far as tracking down multiple versions to take the picture quality of one, cut scenes from another…

> Rights holders only do the absolute minimum to preserve the culture they own ...

I mean, this is not just true, but even more clearly so when you look at things beyond the (fairly niche and not legally sanctioned) 'piracy' scene. There is solid scholarship showing that content which has entered the public domain is far better preserved and accrues far more references, compared to very similar content which is still copyright-encumbered. So it is clearly the case that, while having some copyright is likely good for culture, we have way more of it at present than would be justified.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by icebraining »

seszett wrote: post #22
_pmf_ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reddit was a nice idea, but it just got too big. Funny how that wasn't a problem until the Bad Orange Man won. Surely just a coincidence.

If you're suggesting that Donald Trump has some connection with the bans of controversial subreddits I think you're wrong, since the one big ban of fatpeoplehate, shitniggerssay and a few other controversial subreddits happened in 2015, a full year before Donald Trump's election.

/r/jailbait and a few related subreddits were closed way back in 2011.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by klntsky »

/r/Piracy owners deserve it. They should've considered such a possibility before allowing their community to grow on a platform they do not control.

So they are not "victims", just a bit inconsiderate. And there is no reason to blame reddit, or anyone, for the deletion. They are not obliged to provide their service to anyone.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by icebraining »

johnchristopher wrote: post #21
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene. If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The more we barricade our works into locked off walled gardens the more likely we are to lose them. The music piracy scene is a large reason why a lot of music is still around today. Bands and Artists…

> This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene. > If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The book pirating scene is poor though. Outside of YA best-sellers and the usual K. Dick and Pratchett there isn't much to pirate if you are into anything not completely maintstream.

Can't say I agree, Libgen alone has plenty more.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by realusername »

johnchristopher wrote: post #21
CuriousCosmic wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene. If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The more we barricade our works into locked off walled gardens the more likely we are to lose them. The music piracy scene is a large reason why a lot of music is still around today. Bands and Artists…

> This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene. > If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The book pirating scene is poor though. Outside of YA best-sellers and the usual K. Dick and Pratchett there isn't much to pirate if you are into anything not completely maintstream.

You have plenty of private boards with absolutely everything you want.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Post by arkades »

0815test wrote: post #23
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People passionate about something are much more responsible than actual legal rights holders. Rights holders only do the absolute minimum to preserve the culture they own, countless movies available in the commercial space are the worst quality versions of those movies and people passionate about those movies will go as far as tracking down multiple versions to take the picture quality of one, cut scenes from another…

> Rights holders only do the absolute minimum to preserve the culture they own ... I mean, this is not just true, but even more clearly so when you look at things beyond the (fairly niche and not legally sanctioned) 'piracy' scene. There is solid scholarship showing that content which has entered the public domain is far better preserved and accrues far more references, compared to very similar content which is still…

I know I’m short a night of sleep but:

I’m pretty sure you two are in complete agreement.

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