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Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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This is a small price to pay for the censorship that has successfully defeated the scourges of white nationalism, bigotry, and general ignorance. Oh, censorship hasn't actually achieved those things, you say? Then why the fuck are we tolerating its coordinated resurgence?! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. The same old authoritarian bullshit that jumpstarted reddit can now end it. It is once again time…

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

>or it has to find a revenue stream outside of pursuing advertising revenue

hey what do we pay gold for then :(

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

>Piracy: the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work.

Doesn't seem inherently bad to me. It would be bad if it were for your own commerical benefit but if done for the preservation of culture for example it could be justified. If we couldn't copy CD's some music or video games might be lost forever -- even though copying is forbidden by the licence.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

People passionate about something are much more responsible than actual legal rights holders.

Rights holders only do the absolute minimum to preserve the culture they own, countless movies available in the commercial space are the worst quality versions of those movies and people passionate about those movies will go as far as tracking down multiple versions to take the picture quality of one, cut scenes from another, the sound from another and the subtitles from a fourth to make definitive best image, best sound, no cuts version and they do all that for free.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

We had culture before copyright, we'll have culture after copyright.

All that needs to be eradicated is the obsolete middle-men acting as gatekeepers to our shared culture for profit.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

Culture != commerce. The very fact that piracy is sustained by volunteer communities should speak for itself here, but if you need more evidence, consider:

> The scope of music collected on What.cd was almost incomprehensibly vast: More than a million distinct “releases” of songs, albums, and bootlegs.

> Bach cello suites. Obscure Chinese indie rock. Nigerian hip-hop. Thai psych-funk from the 1970s. Every release of Miles Davis’ Kind of Blue, including vinyl rips and remasters. UK techno tracks that were pressed on vinyl in the 90s, with only a few hundred copies made, and uploaded by dedicated crate-diggers.

> The collections of Spotify and Apple Music may seem infinite, but What.cd had thousands of albums that were not available anywhere else—and now, are not available anywhere at all. The site had about 800,000 artists as of early 2016...

from https://qz.com/840661/what-cd-is-gone-a-eulogy-for-the-great...

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #9

Good. Piracy must be eradicated if culture is to survive.

This is a rather strange take considering how large and quality the cultural (music, movies, tv, games, books, art, etc) communities are in the pirating scene.

If anything piracy is essential to the survival of culture. The more we barricade our works into locked off walled gardens the more likely we are to lose them. The music piracy scene is a large reason why a lot of music is still around today.

Bands and Artists whither away and die but the music lives on. How do you make that happen when all the music is locked behind DRM on streaming services?

Likewise goes for gaming communities that have reverse engineered the online services for long dead games. It's cracking and its piracy to distribute these games but they maintain vibrant communities for abandoned games.

I fear that with the increased reliance on streaming services, other gated content providers, and the increased effort to force copyright compliance that a lot of what we consume nowadays will become lost internet history.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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This is a small price to pay for the censorship that has successfully defeated the scourges of white nationalism, bigotry, and general ignorance. Oh, censorship hasn't actually achieved those things, you say? Then why the fuck are we tolerating its coordinated resurgence?! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. The same old authoritarian bullshit that jumpstarted reddit can now end it. It is once again time…

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

> Reddit was a nice idea, but it just got too big.

Funny how that wasn't a problem until the Bad Orange Man won. Surely just a coincidence.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

>or it has to find a revenue stream outside of pursuing advertising revenue hey what do we pay gold for then :(

As far as I understand, the gold revenue is not really meaningful compared to advertising, it's something like a few percent of their total revenue.
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